TNKNGM All-Star Sliders (New Tuner 2.0 )

**TNKNGM** · 11-13-2010, 12:37 AM

Re: TNKNGM All-Star Sliders (New Tuner 2.0 )

Here is the first game I played with the new version of the sliders.

Good pace and flow to the game - Bruins win in OT on a deflection by Blake Wheeler.
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="2">Boston Bruins vs Phoenix Coyotes</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td valign="top" width="55%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 10, 2010</td><td align="right" width="10%">1</td><td align="right" width="10%">2</td><td align="right" width="10%">3</td><td align="right" width="10%">OT</td><td align="right" width="12%">F</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>BOS ()</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">4</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>PHX ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">3</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="2">Three Stars</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/1-Star.png"></td><td width="84%"><b></b><br /></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/2-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b></b><br /></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/3-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b></b><br /></td></tr></table></td><td valign="top" width="45%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="64%"></td><td align="right" width="18%">BOS</td><td align="right" width="18%">PHX</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shots on Goal</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">39</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Hits</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Faceoffs Won-Lost</td><td align="right">20-19</td><td align="right">19-20</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Penalty Minutes</td><td align="right">8:00</td><td align="right">8:00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Power Plays Converted</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Power Play Opportunities</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Time on Attack</td><td align="right">6:09</td><td align="right">7:17</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST PERIOD</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">BOS</td><td width="90%">Seidenberg (Hunwick, Bergeron)</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND PERIOD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">PHX</td><td width="90%">Hanzal (Doan, Morris)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">BOS</td><td width="90%">Bergeron (Caron, Recchi)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">PHX</td><td width="90%">Wolski (Aucoin, Belanger)</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD PERIOD</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">BOS</td><td width="90%">Chara (Ryder, Seguin)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">PHX</td><td width="90%">Doan (anzal, Stempniak)</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">OVERTIME</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">BOS</td><td width="90%">Wheeler (Seidenberg, Hunwick)</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead_alt"><td bgcolor="#FFC422" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Boston Bruins - Goalies</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">GOALIES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SHOTS</td><td align="right" width="15%">SAVES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SV %</td><td align="right" width="15%">GAA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Thomas</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">36</td><td align="right">92%</td><td align="right">2.93</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead_alt"><td bgcolor="#812434" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Phoenix Coyotes - Goalies</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">GOALIES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SHOTS</td><td align="right" width="15%">SAVES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SV %</td><td align="right" width="15%">GAA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Bryzgalov</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">86%</td><td align="right">3.98</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

**TNKNGM** · 11-13-2010, 12:39 AM

Re: TNKNGM All-Star Sliders (New Tuner 2.0 )

I will be deleting the other thread in the next day or so and this will be the thread going forward for my sliders.

Please post some results and feedback so we can finally nail these sliders down and get the franchises going.

**SteveWeizer** · 11-13-2010, 07:49 AM

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Im Likin these so far but I made some slight adjustments:

Fatigue Effect: Human 6 / CPU 6
Fatigue recovery: Human 2 / CPU 2
Broken Stick Freq: 1
BAP & Human Strategy Adjustment: 2
Shot Power: 5/4
Slap Shot Power: 3/3
Stick Lift Effectiveness: Both at 0
Poke Effectiveness: Both at 0
Goalie Passing: Both at 1
Goalie Cover Puck Frequency: Both at 6
Goalie Reaction Speed: human 5 / cpu 3

Everything else is the same. Kind of a mix between yours and Rogie Vachons. I did some tweaking till I found some I was comfortable with. Try them out yourself if u want, let me know what u think. Might post some results later.

**Fiddy** · 11-13-2010, 10:48 AM

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stupid question here.. but when you turn off manual passing, does it make it like previous years games? just tap the button and the pass had solid zip on it?

**TNKNGM** · 11-13-2010, 11:19 AM

Re: TNKNGM All-Star Sliders (New Tuner 2.0 )

Originally posted by Fiddy

stupid question here.. but when you turn off manual passing, does it make it like previous years games? just tap the button and the pass had solid zip on it?

Yes - I am not a fan of this years manual passing system

**Fiddy** · 11-13-2010, 01:19 PM

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hmm.. i didnt realize you could use the old passing. even with it turned off!! always thought there was gonna be a delay.

**TNKNGM** · 11-13-2010, 01:45 PM

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Boston beats New Jersey in the shootout

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="2">Boston Bruins vs New Jersey Devile</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td valign="top" width="55%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 13, 2010</td><td align="right" width="10%">1</td><td align="right" width="10%">2</td><td align="right" width="10%">3</td><td align="right" width="10%">SO</td><td align="right" width="12%">F</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>BOS ()</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>NJ ()</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">2</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="2">Three Stars</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/1-Star.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Martin Brodeur</b><br />31 Saves</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/2-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>David Krejci</b><br />1 Goal, 1 Assist</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/3-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Tim Thomas</b><br />27 Saves</td></tr></table></td><td valign="top" width="45%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="64%"></td><td align="right" width="18%">BOS</td><td align="right" width="18%">NJ</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shots on Goal</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">29</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Hits</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">11</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Faceoffs Won-Lost</td><td align="right">35-19</td><td align="right">19-35</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Penalty Minutes</td><td align="right">6:00</td><td align="right">10:00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Power Plays Converted</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Power Play Opportunities</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Time on Attack</td><td align="right">9:09</td><td align="right">6:14</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST PERIOD</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">BOS</td><td width="90%">Nathan Horton (Krejci, Seidenberg) 19:43</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">NJ</td><td width="90%">Ilya Kovalchuk (Unassisted) 19:59</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND PERIOD</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">BOS</td><td width="90%">David Krejci (Hunwick, Recchi) 13:28 (PP)</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD PERIOD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">NJ</td><td width="90%">Mark Fraser (Elias, Greene) 16:25</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead_alt"><td bgcolor="#FFC422" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Boston Bruins - Goalies</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">GOALIES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SHOTS</td><td align="right" width="15%">SAVES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SV %</td><td align="right" width="15%">GAA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tim Thomas</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">93%</td><td align="right">1.85</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead_alt"><td bgcolor="#E13A3E" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">New Jersey Devile - Goalies</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">GOALIES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SHOTS</td><td align="right" width="15%">SAVES</td><td align="right" width="15%">SV %</td><td align="right" width="15%">GAA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Martin Brodeur</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">94%</td><td align="right">1.85</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

**TNKNGM** · 11-13-2010, 01:48 PM

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I'm currently doing a dummy franchise just to kill time and get these sliders as close to final as we can......I will start my real franchise when the next roster update comes out - hopefully this week. I'm going to give EA on more shot at getting these top prospects in the AHL back into the game before I get committed to my franchise.

I will be posting all my boxscores and periodic stats updates for my team and the league leaders in this thread once I start my franchise.

**BleacherCreature** · 11-14-2010, 07:51 AM

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How does the CPU get so many shots against you?
In 4 games since the latest patch and tuner the most shots I have allowed is 21. But I am still giving up the same amount of goals.

**TNKNGM** · 11-14-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by BleacherCreature

How does the CPU get so many shots against you?
In 4 games since the latest patch and tuner the most shots I have allowed is 21. But I am still giving up the same amount of goals.

I don't know......must be my style of play compared to your style of play?

You cant ry tweaking these if you like the general feel of them - maybe try tweaking the CPU Difficulty slider?

**jkra0512** · 11-14-2010, 10:03 AM

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I'm trying these out after my last slider set kinda bit the dust after the last patch and tuner set.

The one thing I don't want to tweak is the CPU difficulty slider, the game just feels ridiculously cheap when adjusting that setting. Just throwing a theory out there for discussion purposes (this is a discussion board, after all), but what happens if we tweak the main settings around the CPU difficulty slider instead of zeroing it out and using it as an in between all-star and superstar difficulty setting?

I see that you have it at 2 right now...I'm finding many sliders sets will zero it out and will just increase it to get "tougher CPU opponents." However, I find that it just cheapens the experience when the CPU gets every loose puck, seems a little faster or their defensemen actually play the puck rather than just skating backwards into the goalie and allowing the CPU to take a beautifully set up shot from the slot.

I have no qualms with your slider set, I'm merely trying to open discussion on how you and the rest of those who are using your slider set look at this issue...

PS- What does the human learning adjustment slider control? It's sort of a vague description...

**BleacherCreature** · 11-14-2010, 10:34 AM

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The CPU difficulty slider also seems to allow them to score more goals on fewer shots.
I've reached a frustration point right now. All I need is the CPU to take a few more shots and I will be happy (for now).

**Lordofthething** · 11-14-2010, 10:41 AM

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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="2">San Jose vs Edmonton</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td valign="top" width="55%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1</td><td align="right" width="10%">2</td><td align="right" width="10%">3</td><td align="right" width="10%">OT</td><td align="right" width="12%">F</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>SJ (5-0)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" class="active">4</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>EDM (0-3-2)</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">3</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="2">Three Stars</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/1-Star.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Joe Thornton</b><br />2 goals</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/2-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Ryan Whitney</b><br />1 goal</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/3-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Scott Nichol</b><br />2 assists</td></tr></table></td><td valign="top" width="45%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="64%"></td><td align="right" width="18%">SJ</td><td align="right" width="18%">EDM</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shots on Goal</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">39</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Hits</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">10</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Faceoffs Won-Lost</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">26</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Penalty Minutes</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">4</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Power Plays Converted</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Power Play Opportunities</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Time on Attack</td><td align="right">4:27</td><td align="right">6:48</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

Comments: The consensus out there seems to be that the game is easier post-patch so I was a little surprised you lowered CPU difficulty down to 2. I know one thing for sure - face-off difficulty needs to be at 5 for me, but thats a personal thing. I had 5 more PP's than them so I don't know if I would read too much into the shot totals, but the CPU did seem a little to passive so I don't know if I like aggression at 4/4..

I try one more game here...Oilers play the Rangers this morning but I think I have for a couple more games

**rangersfan30** · 11-14-2010, 10:43 AM

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I am going to try a dummy franchise with these, i have already started one with Roggievachons too. Just trying to find the right sliders on all-star because in previous years it has been stepping up to superstar that had me hating 09, 10 due to the feel of the game.

One question guys i hope someone can answer because i dont want to open a new thread when its probably something really simple but when you go to start a BAGM what do people set the game style to? i ask because i didnt know if this was related to passing.

Thanks.

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