For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

[fistofrage]

Are you talking about in the open field when the defenders are behind you? Do you have the stick pressed all the way up? I have played too many games to count and I never see this. Even with the sliders in the AI's favor.

Now sometimes D linemen will catch me as I am going through the hole or trying to get aaround the corner, but thats fine because if they have good acceleration and only have to take 2 quick strides to get there, thats realistic.

But if the defenders are behind me after I hit a slant against the blitz or my RB gets into the second level with noone with an angle and everyone behind him, I have NEVER seen the AI defenders catch up to my player if I have the speed edge. In fact alot of the time, I am wondering why the 94 speed AI CB doesn't catch my WR with a 90 speed.

[jello1717]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

This is affected by sliders.

Speed threshold changes the comparative speed of faster and slower guys.

Running back ability affects the speed of players with the ball (not just HBs/FBs).

A high speed threshold will allow slower guys to make up more ground on faster guys than a low threshold.

A low RBA slider will slow down ball carriers (even with it @ 40 makes them feel like they're running in mud) which will also allow slower defenders to catch faster ball carriers.

[NoDakHusker]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

That 94 speed CB might not have a good acceleration rating and/or your WR might have high acceleration, it's not just about the speed ratings anymore.

[fistofrage]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

This is affected by sliders.

Speed threshold changes the comparative speed of faster and slower guys.

Running back ability affects the speed of players with the ball (not just HBs/FBs).

A high speed threshold will allow slower guys to make up more ground on faster guys than a low threshold.

A low RBA slider will slow down ball carriers (even with it @ 40 makes them feel like they're running in mud) which will also allow slower defenders to catch faster ball carriers.

Of course sliders effect these things. I just see alot of people mention that they get caught from behind by slower players and I never see it even with human RBA at 40 and AI defense sliders cranked up.

[fistofrage]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

That 94 speed CB might not have a good acceleration rating and/or your WR might have high acceleration, it's not just about the speed ratings anymore.

Yeah, I realize there are factors involved, it just seems like in every other thread I see people complaining about linemen running their RBs and receivers down, and I don't see it. In fact I doubt I would see it unless I lowered the Human RBA way below 40.

[phant030]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

Yeah, I realize there are factors involved, it just seems like in every other thread I see people complaining about linemen running their RBs and receivers down, and I don't see it. In fact I doubt I would see it unless I lowered the Human RBA way below 40.

rite...i dont see it either. They always talk about it, i want them to upload a video.

[fistofrage]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

rite...i dont see it either. They always talk about it, i want them to upload a video.

Thats exactly it, its why we have to discuss these things because I don't want EA dumbing down the defense or making them slower because they have read in multiple threads that linemen are running down 90+ speed RB's downfield. I have to really handicap myself with sliders and some house rules to not get too many big plays as it is.

[Yeti_2009]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

This is affected by sliders.

Speed threshold changes the comparative speed of faster and slower guys.

Running back ability affects the speed of players with the ball (not just HBs/FBs).

A high speed threshold will allow slower guys to make up more ground on faster guys than a low threshold.

A low RBA slider will slow down ball carriers (even with it @ 40 makes them feel like they're running in mud) which will also allow slower defenders to catch faster ball carriers.

yeah I just dropped speed threshold to 0 and use SECelite's slider sets and I am good.

There was one time that I was curious because an ILB caught my HB from behind but then I looked at his acceleration and speed both which were higher then my HB so it made sense.

With default settings, there were sometimes I was getting caught behind (about 5 yards from the line of scrimmage) in the open field after running a toss play to the outside. Once i modified the sliders and speed threshold, I haven't had a problem.

[the veteran]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

I've never seen it either, people just like to bitch on these boards for the most part. Getting tackled on a toss is not getting "run down" it's called pursuit.

[Yeti_2009]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

I've never seen it either, people just like to bitch on these boards for the most part. Getting tackled on a toss is not getting "run down" it's called pursuit.

agreed, but if you are already 5 yards down field with no one in front of you and a DE comes from behind to tackle you...thats more then just pursuit.

Also, I was just speaking from experience. The necessary slider adjustments took care of it and I wouldnt have complained about it on the boards. The OP asked and I responded.....

[jbrew2411]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

Thats exactly it, its why we have to discuss these things because I don't want EA dumbing down the defense or making them slower because they have read in multiple threads that linemen are running down 90+ speed RB's downfield. I have to really handicap myself with sliders and some house rules to not get too many big plays as it is.

You said it all. If EA reads about how the D can run down faster players then they will go overboard to fix something that is a non-issue. It's like NCAA 09, when people were all upset because the D could not stop anyone or so they said. EA responded by killing QB's from running because they made the D take perfect angles and read plays before they happen. The raised the PUR and PRC ratings for players. By doing so it killed a huge part of the college game.
I wonder if these people that grip about these things use sliders, low the speed slider so that the slower play slow and the fast play fast. The only time I have seen anyone get caught was when a fast DB ran down a slower skill position player. Watch a game on Saturdays and you will see it happen all the time. The Auburn-Alabama had a play where Ingram was ran down a striped by Carter, a DE for Auburn. I know Ingram is not a blazer but it happens.
If anyone wants to see a better playing game then delete the patches and play the game the way EA had intended. I did so and have seen a 100% improvement. I can now run play-action, return kicks & punts, seeing QB's (human & cpu controlled) run with open lanes. The option (spread and triple) ran so much better. This is what happens when people complain about things that is just part of football.

[Yeti_2009]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

If anyone wants to see a better playing game then delete the patches and play the game the way EA had intended.

Is it possible to do this without reformatting the harddrive?

[jbrew2411]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

Is it possible to do this without reformatting the harddrive?

Clear your cache. You have to go back and download all the patches for any other game you play. I only play NBA2k11, Choops2k8, & Madden 10 every now and then. It took me 10 minutes to do. By doing so NCAA 11 changed for me. The game plays so much better. EA messed things up with all these patches.

[Kingfish]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

Clear your cache. You have to go back and download all the patches for any other game you play. I only play NBA2k11, Choops2k8, & Madden 10 every now and then. It took me 10 minutes to do. By doing so NCAA 11 changed for me. The game plays so much better. EA messed things up with all these patches.

I want the final patch, thats fine with me...but I want the tuner set second from the last! The one that came out WITH the last patch...the last one they did just screwed up several parts of the game for me...damn jumping 300lb+ DL that leap 15ft in the air and LBers that NEVER miss the ball when batting at it just tick me off to no end!

[Special27K]

Re: For people who say they get caught from behind by slower players...

I want the final patch, thats fine with me...but I want the tuner set second from the last! The one that came out WITH the last patch...the last one they did just screwed up several parts of the game for me...damn jumping 300lb+ DL that leap 15ft in the air and LBers that NEVER miss the ball when batting at it just tick me off to no end!

Me and friend dubbed those ball swatting LB's Jesusbackers, maybe half the time they'll swat a pass down intended for a reciever 8-10 yards behind them. I have a sneaking suspicion that it has to do with field size, brought to my attention by khalib in the QB Scrambling thread.