So I'm in my 3rd year of my Bucs franchise and I have Mike Williams who is a TANK at the #1 spot. I start the season and he isn't on the field. Instead the #3 or 4 WR is in his spot depending on the play call. So I try moving him down to 3 or 4 on the depth and he still isn't there. Is this a glitch or is my roster messed up or what? wtf is going on.
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He's either injured or low stamina. -
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Nope. He wasn't out there for the first play of the first game. Hasn't been out there on any snap so far in 3 games. Nobody on the injury list and if he hasn't played I don't know why he'd have low stamina.Comment
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Did you do any formation subs that would have subbed him out in favor of another WR?Comment
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Try resigning him to a new contract...if that doesnt work, then you'll have to cut him and resign him unfortunately.Comment
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There is a bug that stops guys from playing if you have a lower end team (possibly after a loosing season) with a high end player.
Mike Williams is "holding out" on you.
In previous Madden's players would hold out and demand a trade if they were unhappy with their team or their contract. That feature was removed, but the backround programming logic is still there.
Unfortunately this bug was never fixed after 2 versions of the game, and 7 patches.
Happened to my Detroit Lions team when I signed Mario Manningham... He played one season and then wouldnt show up on the field for his next season even though he was on the roster #1 spot.
Im sorry ot tell ya, but there's nothing that can be done. Bugs like this (and the IR bug) either can't or won't be fixed for some reason.
*shrugs*
Trade him. Or this.Comment
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Tried signing him to a new contract and it didn't work. I might try cutting him and resigning him but I'm just gonna wait him out. I've got plenty of WR talent so maybe after a good season he'll wanna play again.
Thanks guys!Comment
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We are likely talking semantics here, but yeah, a lot of the old franchise features are in the game but "turned off" and have no visual graphic interface. For example, Player Roles are in the game, and when you progress your franchise into the offseason, you can see the computer process this. The thing is, there are no graphics for player roles, all of the roles abilities are "set to zero" so they have no effect on he game and so forth. My understanding is the same thing is true for player moral and hold outs.
P.S. This is just my opinion, but I honestly think EA lied to us when they said they built next gen Madden from the ground up. I think they did import last gen madden and the messed it all up while under David Ortiz.Comment
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PGaither, it is a shame there is no one we can ask to find out if your theory is true. No one.Comment
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Of course they didn't build from the ground up. Maybe some of the core 3D engines and/or the gameplay engine itself, but there isn't a company in the world that would rebuild a working product from scratch.
This game, especially the Franchise mode, seems to have had the same "guts" for an eternity.Comment
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Yup, this just explains in greater detail what I was saying above. And you're totally correct.
Player roles, and holdouts are in there, even though they were "removed." So even though there is no graphic representing what happened to OP's Mike Williams, the AI logic is still programmed to make Williams behave that way.
What happened here, is Mike Williams was holding out since he was either unhappy playing for a low-ranked team, or he was unhappy with his contract.
Thats is why OP cutting and signing him got him on the field, it gave Mike Williams a new contract. It gave Mike Williams what he wanted.
Its very frustrating that this "feature" was removed, but the after effects are still in the game... leaving you sometimes confused as to why the hell your star player is not on the field.
But as far as this bug goes... or the broken IR system... I have just given up on such things being fixed. They just cant/wont/dont fix it for some reason. Whether they dont know, or there are limitations with memory on the disc or in their programming.... *shrugs* it is what it is.
This exact thing happened in my Lions franchise. I went 7-9 in the 2012 season, and next year Mario Manningham (who I signed as a FA) was never on the field even though he was #1 on my depth chart. He was "holding out" for a trade or new contract... and this "bug" left me wondering why... untill I reasearched it and found out why. So I traded Manningham.
Dont get me wrong! I think the holdout thing is kinda cool... I just wish it was either programmed correctly, or completely removed correctly.
Possibly, if OP's team had a better winning record then he likely would have started playing. Regardless though, Williams was simply holding out for a trade or new contract. It's just that there was no graphic in the game alluding to that.Last edited by kpkpkp; 01-06-2011, 10:54 AM.Comment
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