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  • Openroad_7
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    • Mar 2008
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    #1

    MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

    Has anyone else notice a difference between the two TVs? I usually play on the 60hz TV, but it recently broke, so I am using a 120hz TV and I am late on my swing about 90% of the time now, just can seem to catch up to the, fast or slow. Not a happy gamer right now!
  • dickey1331
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    Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

    I dont know a lot about TVs but some TVs have a "game mode" which I think helps with lag so that may be the problem.
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    • Blzer
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      • Mar 2004
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      #3
      Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

      If response time was the same the 120 Hz should be more accurate. What brands are the television sets?
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      • HawkeyMediaPlus
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        • Sep 2010
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        #4
        Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

        Some TV's have "input lag" There are ways to remedy this such as trying out "game mode" in your input settings. There was a thread on the MLB community site but it would take some digging around to find it.

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        • arsenal123gunners
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          • Nov 2006
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          #5
          Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

          What about a Samsung 240 hz
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          • Giants4Natic
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            • Oct 2010
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            #6
            Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

            Originally posted by Openroad_7
            Has anyone else notice a difference between the two TVs? I usually play on the 60hz TV, but it recently broke, so I am using a 120hz TV and I am late on my swing about 90% of the time now, just can seem to catch up to the, fast or slow. Not a happy gamer right now!

            All HDTV has input lag but some more then others. This is caused by the processing that the tv has to make to get the picture to display after you press a button on the controller, that is why you are late on your swing.

            TV's with 60hz have less lag but suffer from ghosting and blurring more often then those with 120hz. The 120hz is there to speed up the frames on the display to lessen the ghosting and blur but in return add more input lag due to having a longer response time then 60hz

            The 240hz is the one that looks more amazing but it has the ultimate input lag which sucks.

            Putting the tv on game mode will turn off many of the processing that 120hz and 240hz tv's go through to make the picture look sweet therefore the input lag is cut big time.

            In game mode you will not really notice input lag but there is still some. The best judge is playing the game on a TN monitor and notice the difference when timimg games are involved

            240hz tv's are terrible for gaming but amazing for tv watching.

            60hz is great for gaming but do not look as amazing and you might see blurring due to 60hz refresh rate

            I have a 50 inch samsung led 240hz tv and games look amazing but input lag sucks even on game mode (just not as bad)

            Therefore I bought a samsung led monitor and now timing is on point

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            • Openroad_7
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              • Mar 2008
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              #7
              Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

              Originally posted by Blzer
              If response time was the same the 120 Hz should be more accurate. What brands are the television sets?
              Both Sonys

              60Hz is the KDL46W3000
              120Hz is the KDL55EX500

              I can't find the game mode on the TV, but I turned all Motion Flow and Cinema stuff off. Still doesn't play like the W3000.

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              • Openroad_7
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                • Mar 2008
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                #8
                Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                All HDTV has input lag but some more then others. This is caused by the processing that the tv has to make to get the picture to display after you press a button on the controller, that is why you are late on your swing.

                TV's with 60hz have less lag but suffer from ghosting and blurring more often then those with 120hz. The 120hz is there to speed up the frames on the display to lessen the ghosting and blur but in return add more input lag due to having a longer response time then 60hz

                The 240hz is the one that looks more amazing but it has the ultimate input lag which sucks.

                Putting the tv on game mode will turn off many of the processing that 120hz and 240hz tv's go through to make the picture look sweet therefore the input lag is cut big time.

                In game mode you will not really notice input lag but there is still some. The best judge is playing the game on a TN monitor and notice the difference when timimg games are involved

                240hz tv's are terrible for gaming but amazing for tv watching.

                60hz is great for gaming but do not look as amazing and you might see blurring due to 60hz refresh rate

                I have a 50 inch samsung led 240hz tv and games look amazing but input lag sucks even on game mode (just not as bad)

                Therefore I bought a samsung led monitor and now timing is on point
                Thanks for the information, I have to look for the gaming mode on the EX500, I loved the look of the W3000, unfortunately I had to replace the TV because the screen broke. I will update when I find and use the gaming mode.

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                • bigfnjoe96
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 11410

                  #9
                  Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                  Originally posted by Openroad_7
                  Thanks for the information, I have to look for the gaming mode on the EX500, I loved the look of the W3000, unfortunately I had to replace the TV because the screen broke. I will update when I find and use the gaming mode.
                  Your TV has a Game Mode within a setting called Auto Picture. The thing is that setting can only be accessed via HDMI Connection..


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                  • ParisB
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1699

                    #10
                    Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                    Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                    All HDTV has input lag but some more then others. This is caused by the processing that the tv has to make to get the picture to display after you press a button on the controller, that is why you are late on your swing.

                    TV's with 60hz have less lag but suffer from ghosting and blurring more often then those with 120hz. The 120hz is there to speed up the frames on the display to lessen the ghosting and blur but in return add more input lag due to having a longer response time then 60hz

                    The 240hz is the one that looks more amazing but it has the ultimate input lag which sucks.

                    Putting the tv on game mode will turn off many of the processing that 120hz and 240hz tv's go through to make the picture look sweet therefore the input lag is cut big time.

                    In game mode you will not really notice input lag but there is still some. The best judge is playing the game on a TN monitor and notice the difference when timimg games are involved

                    240hz tv's are terrible for gaming but amazing for tv watching.

                    60hz is great for gaming but do not look as amazing and you might see blurring due to 60hz refresh rate

                    I have a 50 inch samsung led 240hz tv and games look amazing but input lag sucks even on game mode (just not as bad)

                    Therefore I bought a samsung led monitor and now timing is on point
                    That's a bit of a generalization and not true for all TV's. To simply say that 240hz TV's are terrible for gaming is false. It depends on the TV on a case by case basis.

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                    • BlackBetty15
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1548

                      #11
                      Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                      Originally posted by ParisB
                      That's a bit of a generalization and not true for all TV's. To simply say that 240hz TV's are terrible for gaming is false. It depends on the TV on a case by case basis.
                      Dont think that he was saying it was bad at all. Simply stating the pros and cons of the 240hz TV. At least that is what I got from it.
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                      • Giants4Natic
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                        • Oct 2010
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                        #12
                        Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                        Originally posted by ParisB
                        That's a bit of a generalization and not true for all TV's. To simply say that 240hz TV's are terrible for gaming is false. It depends on the TV on a case by case basis.
                        I am not stating random generalizations. I am stating the truth

                        240hz makes the pq amazing but it has more processing done to make the picture look great but it makes the input lag worst.

                        You can play games on a 240hz tv and it will look amazing but unless you turn on game mode it is unplayable.

                        Find me a tv that does not use game mode with 240hz and tell me if you can play timing games right.


                        I tested tons of this tv's and research done by videophiles done on AVS forums would tell you the same thing.

                        I am not making these things up

                        Why do you think tv's offer game mode?

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                        • Openroad_7
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                          • Mar 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                          Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                          Your TV has a Game Mode within a setting called Auto Picture. The thing is that setting can only be accessed via HDMI Connection..


                          http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...specifications
                          I will try this, I just found the only way to get to game mode is through the remote.

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                          • Blzer
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42558

                            #14
                            Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                            Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                            Why do you think tv's offer game mode?
                            I'll tell you why I use it (along with the input lag), and it's so I can have different display settings for video games than I have for movies.
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                            • psykatek
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                              • Dec 2005
                              • 78

                              #15
                              Re: MLB10 with 60hz vs 120hz

                              I find this all very interesting because I am in the market for an HDTV and one of my "requirements" is reduced lag for games like MLB. I am looking for a 50" display, I generally prefer plasma, and have been looking at Samsungs.

                              Given these somewhat loose feature requirements, does anyone have recommendations for minimum specs or specific models?

                              Thanks!

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