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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33989

    #1

    Top Spin 4 Videos: OS Exclusive - Gameplay: Parts 1 & 2: Andre Agassi vs. Andy Murray

    These videos are also available on the OS Youtube channel, please subscribe while you're there.
    Steve Noah
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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2
    Re: Top Spin 4 Video: OS Exclusive - Gameplay: Part 1 - Andre Agassi vs. Andy Murray

    Looks real good, but like every tennis game I've played, the Aces are missing. Really wish someone could figure out how to make a tennis game that isn't lacking Aces.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • supermati
      Pro
      • Sep 2004
      • 562

      #3
      Looks pretty nice, but the problem I had in TS3 with the speed and tempo of the match seems to be present here too. It is a tad faster, it seems, but not enough.

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      • PAPERNUT
        Gaming Fool.
        • May 2003
        • 1690

        #4
        Re: Top Spin 4 Video: OS Exclusive - Gameplay: Part 1 - Andre Agassi vs. Andy Murray

        Originally posted by CMH
        Looks real good, but like every tennis game I've played, the Aces are missing. Really wish someone could figure out how to make a tennis game that isn't lacking Aces.
        I agree 100%. That is part of the strategy of Tennis as the serve is a big weapon for some players and dictates how they win points in most cases. I see it like a football game skipping the kickoff and just having both teams start at the 20 yard line each time. I understand they want to keep things moving in the video game, but those pressure moments of having to guess on serves would be a huge addition.

        However, I do see a lot of good things like the off balance floaters and errors as players stretch for balls. That is realistic as it gets. Everything looks balanced between the movements and shots, so it should provide for nice battles between the player styles. I just hope the CPU difficulty is amped up and online servers will be solid to play.
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        • ps3veron
          MVP
          • Aug 2008
          • 1220

          #5
          Looks a lot more "alive" than TS3.

          Yah servers will make or break it.

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          • Dazraz
            Pro
            • Mar 2009
            • 794

            #6
            Some nice presentation touches. Very hard to judge how it will play until you have the controller in your hands.

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            • jyoung
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11132

              #7
              The crowd sounds pretty good. I liked the fans yelling for the players between points.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #8
                Re: Top Spin 4 Video: OS Exclusive - Gameplay: Part 1 - Andre Agassi vs. Andy Murray

                Originally posted by papernut
                I agree 100%. That is part of the strategy of Tennis as the serve is a big weapon for some players and dictates how they win points in most cases. I see it like a football game skipping the kickoff and just having both teams start at the 20 yard line each time. I understand they want to keep things moving in the video game, but those pressure moments of having to guess on serves would be a huge addition.

                However, I do see a lot of good things like the off balance floaters and errors as players stretch for balls. That is realistic as it gets. Everything looks balanced between the movements and shots, so it should provide for nice battles between the player styles. I just hope the CPU difficulty is amped up and online servers will be solid to play.
                Definitely a lot of good. Aces are the only thing I'll keep complaining over.

                But the back-and-forth, the running, the shots, all of it is real nice.

                I like the stat overlays: "Longest rally in the game." "This match has been played for 10 minutes." Those are nice touches.

                Also like hearing the Public announcer ask the crowd to quiet down. I don't remember that from Top Spin 3.

                And just from Murray vs. Agassi you can get a feel for the different styles and strengths. I noticed at one point Andre tired out, but I'm not sure why exactly. I think because he just exerted too much energy reaching for shots on both baselines, but it's still a great inclusion.
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • jyoung
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11132

                  #9
                  In Top Spin 3, players could be "tired" according to the on-screen indicator, but they still played fine. This is why people never put any points into stamina online.

                  I hope there is more of a penalty for getting "fatigued" in this version.

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                  • FlyingFinn
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3956

                    #10
                    Re: Top Spin 4 Video: OS Exclusive - Gameplay: Part 1 - Andre Agassi vs. Andy Murray

                    Originally posted by CMH
                    Looks real good, but like every tennis game I've played, the Aces are missing. Really wish someone could figure out how to make a tennis game that isn't lacking Aces.
                    I wouldn't expect a lot of aces between these two player. Two of the best returners in the game and neither with a dominating serve.

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                    • kelvinmak
                      Staff Writer
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 85

                      #11
                      Aw man, gotta go change my shorts now.

                      The only weird thing I noticed was that a tiny portion of the swing animations look kinda awkward, like the wind up was artificially sped up. Though to be fair, I don't know if they can get rid of that totally with human play. They probably want to be a little forgiving if we swung slightly too late.

                      I wonder if they made the distinction between Agassi's playing style through the years, like the younger more aggressive Agassi going for winners at every opportunity, compared to the older, more patient, "tire you out" Agassi. That alone would get me to buy the game.

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                      • Steve_OS
                        Editor-in-Chief
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33989

                        #12
                        Just added Part 2, enjoy!
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                        • Entiae
                          Flip That Bat!
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 785

                          #13
                          I'm not a tennis fan but the game looks beautiful.
                          If there will be a demo I'll try it out.

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                          • majestic
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 10

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kelvinmak
                            Aw man, gotta go change my shorts now.

                            The only weird thing I noticed was that a tiny portion of the swing animations look kinda awkward, like the wind up was artificially sped up. Though to be fair, I don't know if they can get rid of that totally with human play. They probably want to be a little forgiving if we swung slightly too late.

                            I wonder if they made the distinction between Agassi's playing style through the years, like the younger more aggressive Agassi going for winners at every opportunity, compared to the older, more patient, "tire you out" Agassi. That alone would get me to buy the game.
                            I noticed a few quirks with the swings too --- there were a couple times it looked like the ball came off the racket with more pace than it should have for the amount of backswing. But that's just if I'm nit-picking... for the most part the animations look fantastic. Footwork is beautiful.

                            And the audio to me sounds hugely improved, not just the crowd but across the board.

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                            • PAPERNUT
                              Gaming Fool.
                              • May 2003
                              • 1690

                              #15
                              Re: Top Spin 4 Videos: OS Exclusive - Gameplay: Parts 1 & 2: Andre Agassi vs. Andy Mu

                              Loved seeing the miss hit by Murray around the 2:30 mark. Jumping backhands by Agassi looked nice as well. You guys are right about the crowd. Nice tough with the yells between points and the hype during rallies.
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