Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

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  • Dumbangel67
    Rookie
    • Apr 2011
    • 13

    #1

    Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

    I wasn't quite sure where to post this. Last night I played a game against the New York Mets against R.A. Dickey. The strike to ball ratio was 89 strikes and 13 balls. I chased only 6 pitches that game. I thought that perhaps it was just one of those games that happens every once in a while but nonetheless I decided to play the game over again. Well, very similar results. This time 94 strikes and 11 balls with me chasing only 4 pitches. I know that there are only a few primary knuckleball pitchers in baseball and you may only face two or so a season, and this could be overlooked very easily... but, has anybody else noticed this? What is the typical ball to strike ratio for a knuckleball pitcher? I always assumed knuckleballer or not, they throw nearly as many balls out of the strike zone as anyone else.
    Thanks
    (If anybody needed to know, I'm using Jgainseys slider set so it's not like I'm on rookie or anything)
  • Glenn33
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2455

    #2
    Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

    Hush yo mouf!

    If this thread somehow leads to the developers making a change to my most effective pitcher I will not be happy!

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    • vln13
      Rookie
      • Apr 2010
      • 168

      #3
      Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

      Dickey is that good!

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      • Dumbangel67
        Rookie
        • Apr 2011
        • 13

        #4
        Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

        Come on, are you really saying his strike to ball ratio is nearly 90%? lol Nobody is that good, let alone enough to throw that many strikes and not get bombed! No offense.

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        • nomo17k
          Permanently Banned
          • Feb 2011
          • 5735

          #5
          Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...uckleball.html
          The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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          • Dumbangel67
            Rookie
            • Apr 2011
            • 13

            #6
            Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

            A little Dickey bias? lol You're the Mets I assume for your team so I don't blame you for not wanting the settings changed. Play against Dickey for one game and let me know what the box score looks like, even the strike to ball ratio. That would be helpful. I'm not requesting or demanding some sort or patch to change that, I don't even know if it really is an issue. I just thought feedback from others who've went up against the knuckleballers may have fill us in on how their games went.

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            • Siddo4ty4
              Rookie
              • Nov 2009
              • 289

              #7
              Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

              took me some practice to get used to hitting the Knuckler but after Im tuned in its bombs away. that K ration is ridulous though lol

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              • Dumbangel67
                Rookie
                • Apr 2011
                • 13

                #8
                Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                See, I don't mind having a hard time hitting against Dickey. He is a decent pitcher. I flew out a bunch. It's just people work so hard on sliders and roster adjustments to keep them consistent to real life statistics, that to me seems sort of out of place with all the work people have done (Who work for the game and Show heads like us on this forum) I just thought somebody else would have mentioned it already. Unless it was just a 2 game fluke.

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                • Dumbangel67
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 13

                  #9
                  Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                  I've also never played a game so near to MLB stats before in my life. The Show really has gone above and beyond this year in every single format. The knuckleballers though, stick out like a sore thumb.

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                  • Dumbangel67
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                    I read through it, though as informative as it was, just cpu strike percentages was all I was wondering. High 60% even mid 70% I could understand. But high 80%? Thanks for sending me the link Nomo. I had no idea so many knuckleball pitchers were in the minors these days.

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                    • nomo17k
                      Permanently Banned
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5735

                      #11
                      Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                      Originally posted by Dumbangel67
                      I read through it, though as informative as it was, just cpu strike percentages was all I was wondering. High 60% even mid 70% I could understand. But high 80%? Thanks for sending me the link Nomo. I had no idea so many knuckleball pitchers were in the minors these days.
                      I think it's basically the same problem, Dumbangel. Most of the time you just let knuckleball do its own thing by aiming down the middle, but for some reason this year the command and/or movement on that pitch isn't as dramatic. So if the pitch is aimed down the middle, it hardly ever becomes a ball...

                      I ran a bunch of CPU vs CPU games and I see the same thing as you do. Kncucklers (Dickey & Wakefield at majors) throws waaay more strikes. 80 - 90% is the norm.
                      The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                      • Dumbangel67
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 13

                        #12
                        Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                        Originally posted by nomo17k
                        I think it's basically the same problem, Dumbangel. Most of the time you just let knuckleball do its own thing by aiming down the middle, but for some reason this year the command and/or movement on that pitch isn't as dramatic. So if the pitch is aimed down the middle, it hardly ever becomes a ball...

                        I ran a bunch of CPU vs CPU games and I see the same thing as you do. Kncucklers (Dickey & Wakefield at majors) throws waaay more strikes. 80 - 90% is the norm.
                        So what you are saying is that you simed and they threw with those results, or was the 90 percent the real life percentages?

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                        • nomo17k
                          Permanently Banned
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 5735

                          #13
                          Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                          High strike % is just in sim (gameplay). IRL they shouldn't be THAT high for knuckleballers. Certainly not in 80 - 90% range.
                          The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                          • Heroesandvillains
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 5974

                            #14
                            Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                            I think his issue was while facing Dickey. Not pitching with Dickey.

                            If he only chased in the neighborhood of 5 pitches, in each game, that says that the knuckle "dancing or not dancing" isn't the only issue here. It's wildness, or lack there of.

                            This assuming he hasn't bumped strike frequency or control, fwiw.

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                            • Dumbangel67
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 13

                              #15
                              Re: Knuckleballers Strike Percantages

                              I was facing Dickey.

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