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  • canes21
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 22914

    #1

    Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode


    The Gaming Tailgate has posted a bunch of specific and in-depth details about Dynasty mode that might not find their way into standard previews and press releases. These details come via a community-based Q&A session, and as with most Q&As about very specific details, there is more negatives than positives to be found here.

    One negative thing coming from the Q&A is the confirmation about the lack of individual coaching ratings, which means the Coaching Carousel loses a bit of luster. If you put the pieces of the puzzle together, you sort of already knew this was coming based on some of the details that had previously been released about Dynasty mode, but it's still a little disappointing to hear. However, coach prestige will impact results during simulations, and it will still impact recruiting via the "pitches" previously in the game. These caveats should not be overlooked. Since coaches will now recruit for their playbook and style of play, if you take over a job and want to recruit for a new system, that will provide a whole new layer of challenge that was not there previously.

    In addition, you can't hire your own coordinators once you're the head coach, and really, why would you if the coaches don't have ratings -- the only thing playing a part in the decision would be the playbook at that point, and you have control of that if you want. However, if you want an extra layer of challenge, you could build your team based off each coordinator's playbook, which could change your recruiting strategy at various points because the CPU Athletic Director could hire/fire coordinators.

    On the positive side of things, it does seem it will be a slow burn to get from a "D" prestige to an "A" prestige level. You can also share coaches within the roster, so roster makers can now edit all the coaches in addition to all the players. Continuing with the customization positives, you can edit conferences throughout a dynasty, not just before the first year. Lastly, early signs point to simulated stats being more on point this year.

    Head over to The Gaming Tailgate to get the rest of the details.

    Source - Dynasty Info Q&A Thread (The Gaming Tailgate)
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  • prowler
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1385

    #2
    Re: Coach ratings are not in.

    Do you still have to swap teams out so that a Teambuilder team can be in a dynasty?

    Yes. You are still limited to 120 teams in your dynasty.
    That one stings a little.

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    • MSU124
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 169

      #3
      Re: Coach ratings are not in.

      I was wondering this too.

      So all that changes is the playbook and that one area of recruiting: coaching prestige. I don't get it?

      What does a school get when it hires a coach? A play book change?

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      • Roggie
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        • Dec 2008
        • 1753

        #4
        Re: Coach ratings are not in.

        Now will everyone finally rage like they did when I predicted this?
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        • canes21
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          • Sep 2008
          • 22914

          #5
          Re: Coach ratings are not in.

          Originally posted by MSU124
          I was wondering this too.

          So all that changes is the playbook and that one area of recruiting: coaching prestige. I don't get it?

          What does a school get when it hires a coach? A play book change?
          Thats it. If we can play as a school only and hire and fire coaches, then hiring a D- coach will not hurt you anymore than if you hired an A+ coach. Since most recruits don't care about coach prestige and it rarely pops up while recruiting, it doesn't really matter who your coach is.


          Originally posted by Roggie
          Now will everyone finally rage like they did when I predicted this?
          I've been raging since we first saw the video and article from IGN and there was no mention of it. I guess we'll have to stick to following each other's legacies in 2k8 because this game is noy going to own my 360 like 2k8 does.
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          • Nicejob3532
            Rookie
            • May 2011
            • 43

            #6
            Re: Coach ratings are not in.

            Originally posted by canes21
            http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...ll=1#post60804

            Coach ratings are not in, as the HC you don't control who your coordinators are, and from other previews schools factor in the playbook when hiring a coach.

            So, it looks like the CC is a big waste this year to me. If the only thing we are going to see is the name of coaches changing and possibly playbooks, then that is pretty much pointless to have. Sure it might add some flavor to have Duke become a Pro Style team after 4 years, but that may not even happen. If schools factor in playbooks into hiring, then does that mean Missouri only hires coaches with 4-3 playbooks and a Shotgun based offense? If thats the case, then teams aren't even going to change styles.

            I like the direction EA is headed with the franchise, but I would have preferred they not implement CC into this years game, but put it in next year with actual features that make it worth it. After playing Choops 2k8 so much(still do to this day), EA's carousel looks like a joke and probably isn't going to affect Dynasty Mode that much at all.
            It's the first year that they are implementing this relax.

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            • canes21
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 22914

              #7
              Re: Coach ratings are not in.

              Originally posted by Nicejob3532
              It's the first year that they are implementing this relax.
              And it is also done 5% complete. What makes the coaching carousel so important is the affects of coaches on a team. Since they have no ratings, they don't affect the teams, so it is pretty much pointless. There is no risk in hiring a F Prestige Coach besides getting hurt on one little recruiting pitch.
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              • MSU124
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 169

                #8
                Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                I still think they could have done a better job, first year or not. I was really excited about CC until I sat back and thought about it

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                • Nicejob3532
                  Rookie
                  • May 2011
                  • 43

                  #9
                  Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                  Originally posted by canes21
                  Thats it. If we can play as a school only and hire and fire coaches, then hiring a D- coach will not hurt you anymore than if you hired an A+ coach. Since most recruits don't care about coach prestige and it rarely pops up while recruiting, it doesn't really matter who your coach is.
                  Coach Prestige and Coordinator Prestige have an effect on simulations. While it won't have an effect on game play if you sim a game it will effect your teams preformance.

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                  • Roggie
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1753

                    #10
                    Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                    Originally posted by canes21


                    I've been raging since we first saw the video and article from IGN and there was no mention of it. I guess we'll have to stick to following each other's legacies in 2k8 because this game is noy going to own my 360 like 2k8 does.
                    You were maybe one of two people who agreed with me that it would end up this way. Everyone else just flipped out and then celebrated when my prediction came true. I just don't understand how people aren't ticked about it being half-assed.
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                    • dan_457
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4106

                      #11
                      Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                      Originally posted by Nicejob3532
                      It's the first year that they are implementing this relax.
                      Agreed, I didn't even honestly expect a CC at all, and pretty much the only CC anyone expected was a half Assed one. I wouldn't call this CC half assed at all though, more like restricted, due to time. I've got faith that EA will further expand on the CC next year, and I normally have no faith in EA at all, but they've proved to me that they actually care.
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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22914

                        #12
                        Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                        Originally posted by Roggie
                        You were maybe one of two people who agreed with me that it would end up this way. Everyone else just flipped out and then celebrated when my prediction came true. I just don't understand how people aren't ticked about it being half-assed.
                        I know. When I wished for a coaching carousel I wanted ratings to be the big factor. I wouldn't care if playbooks never changed in year one, but I do care about ratings.

                        I think most people here just haven't played 2k8 so they really don't know how a carousel should be done and when done correctly how big a feature it is.
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                        • Da Hype Iz Real
                          Rookie
                          • May 2010
                          • 115

                          #13
                          Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                          Maybe would could wait for the full blog before passing judgment where they clarify everything instead of the tidbits we got.
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                          • JalenTigh
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 569

                            #14
                            Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                            Wow... the whole CC stuff just lost 90% of its appeal for me...
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                            • DorianDonP
                              MVP
                              • May 2010
                              • 1121

                              #15
                              Re: Coach ratings are not in.

                              Originally posted by MSU124
                              I still think they could have done a better job, first year or not. I was really excited about CC until I sat back and thought about it
                              Agreed. And even the other additions haven't been done correctly. It's really disappointing.

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