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  • Charleston_Tiger
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    • Jun 2010
    • 203

    #1

    Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

    Amazing how much further that game is in tech then NCAA and Madden. Their player interaction system ****s on anything NCAA and Madden have.

    When will the Football games step up to the plate and get better interaction systems? Next gen? Next year? When they lose their monopolistic markets?
  • Vols for Life
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    • Jun 2011
    • 17

    #2
    Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

    Originally posted by Charleston_Tiger
    Amazing how much further that game is in tech then NCAA and Madden. Their player interaction system ****s on anything NCAA and Madden have.

    When will the Football games step up to the plate and get better interaction systems? Next gen? Next year? When they lose their monopolistic markets?
    There needs to be more competition in the football game genre. Competition = better games for the customers. I really want to see a Real Time Physics System in NCAA and Madden. Take Backbreaker for instance. Sure, it wasn't that great of a game, but the tech behind it was a leap in the right direction. IMO, EA is getting lazy because when it's all said and done, when you want to play a football game, you have to buy theirs.
    Last edited by Vols for Life; 06-18-2011, 08:21 PM.
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    • Charleston_Tiger
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      • Jun 2010
      • 203

      #3
      Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

      Originally posted by Vols for Life
      There needs to be more competition in the football game genre. Competition = better games for the customers. I really want to see a Real Time Physics System in NCAA and Madden. Take Backbreaker for instance. Sure, it wasn't that great of a game, but the tech behind it was a leap in the right direction. IMO, EA is getting lazy because when it's all said and done, when you want to play a football game, you have to buy there's.

      Agreed competition = innovation. I dont think its a coincidence that FIFA is the best game EA makes. It is the one with the most competition from PES.

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      • Nivek
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        • Jul 2002
        • 7999

        #4
        Agreed. But you have to consider from a global standpoint, FIFA is EA's flagship title thus it gets the majority of the resources.
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        • Dabrwnhornet
          Banned
          • May 2010
          • 78

          #5
          Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

          Originally posted by Nivek
          Agreed. But you have to consider from a global standpoint, FIFA is EA's flagship title thus it gets the majority of the resources.
          This is debatable. Tiger Woods IMO is their Flagship title as it also is given far more love than their two football games. Where there isn't much as far as player to player engagement, the engine itself is excellent.

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          • osubeavs721
            Banned
            • Dec 2008
            • 1577

            #6
            Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

            Originally posted by Dabrwnhornet
            This is debatable. Tiger Woods IMO is their Flagship title as it also is given far more love than their two football games. Where there isn't much as far as player to player engagement, the engine itself is excellent.
            this isnt debatable. FIFA sold way more than madden and NCAA combined.

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            • JSHT21
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              • Mar 2010
              • 483

              #7
              Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

              Originally posted by osubeavs721
              this isnt debatable. FIFA sold way more than madden and NCAA combined.

              "Men lie, Women lie, Numbers dont" Jay z
              exactly, FIFA is a global game. It sells great everywhere. Soccer is the world's number one sport.. not just one or two countries like baseball/football/basketball.

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              • Solidice
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                • Jul 2006
                • 9954

                #8
                Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                Originally posted by Dabrwnhornet
                This is debatable. Tiger Woods IMO is their Flagship title as it also is given far more love than their two football games. Where there isn't much as far as player to player engagement, the engine itself is excellent.
                I think even NCAA Football 11 out sold Tiger Woods 11. not sure how you'll say it's their top game.
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                • TheRealCar10ck
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                  • May 2011
                  • 180

                  #9
                  Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                  CHYEA SOCCER's NUMBER ONE. GO MAN U!...and USA

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                  • Hova57
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3754

                    #10
                    Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                    Fifa did what we wished madden and ncaa do. I think back 2005 they decided to start over and redo the engine. Fifa has been put together for next gen , same for NHL its no coincindence the both of them have RTP. Now NCAA and Madden are starting to redo their games that's why they are improving. Plus because of the number of interactions in football games, its better to watch what other sport type games do and code of that. Another reason why FIFA, NHL, Madden and NCAA is all in the same building now.

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                    • BaylorBearBryant
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                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1536

                      #11
                      That video was sick, and yes FIFA is the cash cow.




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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22949

                        #12
                        Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                        Yea, I saw that video the other day and was in awe. I really wish EA would strip down the engine and start over with that tech. The games we have now are so far behind, it's not worth trying to fix it.
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                        • Pokes404
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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1720

                          #13
                          Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                          Originally posted by Hova57
                          Fifa did what we wished madden and ncaa do. I think back 2005 they decided to start over and redo the engine. Fifa has been put together for next gen , same for NHL its no coincindence the both of them have RTP. Now NCAA and Madden are starting to redo their games that's why they are improving. Plus because of the number of interactions in football games, its better to watch what other sport type games do and code of that. Another reason why FIFA, NHL, Madden and NCAA is all in the same building now.
                          You'd think that would be the answer, but it doesn't seem like they can even get that right. I remember them saying last year that the new locomotion system for NCAA and Madden was based off the FIFA locomotion engine. But when you play the two games, FIFA's system is so much more consistent and realistic than NCAA/Madden. The foot planting is better, momentum is much more respected, cornering is done correctly, players feel like they have real weight to them, the run animations look more natural, and you don't see players get "warp speed" acceleration boosts when they need to get into position. Things look and feel so much more realistic in FIFA that I can't believe one engine is supposed to be based on the other.

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                          • fahrenheit
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                            • Apr 2009
                            • 323

                            #14
                            Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                            Not to mention FIFA is also a much easier game to make when it comes to physics. In soccer you don't have 22 guys where the majority are doing complicated physical collisions and interactions with each other in a huge interactive environment.

                            There was an article where one of the developers discussed this, in FIFA the amount of collisions/physical interactions is hardly a fraction of what goes on in Madden/NCAA.

                            You have to remember a game disc has a finite amount of space, and a game can only be so large.

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                            • cparrish
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                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1539

                              #15
                              Re: Just watched the newest FIFA Video.....

                              Originally posted by fahrenheit
                              Not to mention FIFA is also a much easier game to make when it comes to physics. In soccer you don't have 22 guys where the majority are doing complicated physical collisions and interactions with each other in a huge interactive environment.

                              There was an article where one of the developers discussed this, in FIFA the amount of collisions/physical interactions is hardly a fraction of what goes on in Madden/NCAA.

                              You have to remember a game disc has a finite amount of space, and a game can only be so large.

                              I never thought of it like this, it makes a ton of sense!
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