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  • tougias24
    Rookie
    • Dec 2009
    • 110

    #1

    Player Rating Updates

    I think that we should all make player ratings based on real life stats and personal opinions because i think we could do much better than the actual rankings. If anyone could do a team that they are very familiar with that works and other fans of that team could tweak it until we get final roster ratings for each team as i am currently updating ratings in the "edit player" mode but of course i am only knowledgeable with the bruins and about 5-10 players on every other team.

    NHL 11 Rosters Going into 2012 (Boston Bruins)
    LW Lucic 84 C Krejci 84 RW Horton 84
    LW Marchand 82/83 C Bergeron 85 RW Seguin 79/80
    LW Kelly 80 C Peverley 80 RW Ryder 80
    LW Paille 78 C Campbell 79 RW Thornton 77

    Chara 90 Seidenberg 83
    Ference 80 Boychuk 79/80
    McQuaid 79/80 Kaberle 82/83

    Thomas 92
    Rask 84

    Notes/Scratched Players
    Mark Recchi 80-Retired
    Marc Savard 84-Injured
    Steven Kampfer 77-Scratched

    Feel free to give suggestions
    Last edited by tougias24; 06-30-2011, 12:15 AM.
  • TylerHowe
    Rookie
    • Apr 2010
    • 53

    #2
    Re: Player Rating Updates

    Marchand an 83? 76-79 is more fair until he proves the playoffs were not a fluke. He's my favorite Bruins player since he played Junior here, but whatever.

    I'll do Montreal... not really with lines but whatever, also with rosters as of the end of last season as I'm iffy as to what their team will be next year.

    Brian Gionta 84-Scott Gomez 78-Max Pacioretty 82
    Mike Cammalleri 85-Tomas Plekanec-85-Andrei Kostitsyn 83
    Mathieu Darche 77-Lars Eller 76-Ryan White 74
    Travis Moen 78-Jeff Halpren 77-David Deshernais 78

    Josh Gorges 81-Andrei Markov 86
    P.K Subban 83-Hal Gill 78 (big on defensive awareness, not much else)
    Roman Hamirlik (UFA) 79-Yannick Weber 76 (B/B- potential)

    Carey Price 89
    Alex Auld 77


    Jaroslav Spacek 77
    Tommy Pyatt 75
    Alex Picard 75
    Brent Sopel 76
    Paul Mara 77

    May have underrated a couple of forwards, especially Gomez. He had a bad year, but should rebound moderately well.

    Some top end NHLers

    Alex Ovechkin 94
    Sidney Crosby 95
    Evgeny Malkin 90
    Daniel Sedin 92
    Henrik Sedin 90
    Joe Thornton 90
    Zdeno Chara 88
    Martin St. Louis 90
    Steven Stamkos 90
    Ryan Kesler 91
    Last edited by TylerHowe; 06-30-2011, 07:03 AM.

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    • tougias24
      Rookie
      • Dec 2009
      • 110

      #3
      Re: Player Rating Updates

      Well marchand did have 21 goals and 20 assists which is why i think he should be at least an 80 but your prob right 83 to high thanks for montreals ratings looks pretty good to me! And even though gomez had sucha off year i think hes worthy of and 81-83

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      • Flamesfan102
        Rookie
        • Aug 2009
        • 243

        #4
        Re: Player Rating Updates

        I'll do the Flames, [The Changes I make are either < or > and are in bold].


        Calgary Flames:
        Iginla 92 Stays the same
        Kiprusoff 89 <88
        Bouwmeester 85 <84
        Jokinen 84 <83
        Bourque 83 >84
        Sarich 82 <81
        Hagman 82 <80
        Stajan 82 <80
        Tanguay 82 >84
        Langkow 82 <79
        Giordano 81 >85
        Glencross 79 >82
        Moss 78 >79
        Pardy 77 >79

        Out of the Flames, for NHL 12, Giordano and Tanguay deserve to have an increased rating of at least +2-3.

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        • tougias24
          Rookie
          • Dec 2009
          • 110

          #5
          Re: Player Rating Updates

          i really like/agree with the changes you made for the flames but wheres the rest of the team? Yours seem really accurate to real life stats so itd be great if you can do the rest of em, unless the other players on the roster you dont think need to be changed

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          • mikko1995
            Pro
            • Feb 2010
            • 893

            #6
            Re: Player Rating Updates

            Wild:

            Bouchard 82 - Koivu 85 - Setoguchi 82
            Latendresse 82 - Brodziak 80 - Havlat 84
            Powe 76 - Cullen 78 - Clutterbuck 80
            Nystrom 76 - Madden 77 - Staubitz 76

            Zidlicky 81 - Schultz 80
            Zanon 77 - Stoner 76
            Cuma 76 - Spurgeon 75

            Backstrom 86
            Harding 81

            May have overvalued some of the players. Lines based on what I believe they will be at the start of next season.
            I'm a finn so don't be surprised if I spell words wrong.

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            • savoie2006
              R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
              • Sep 2006
              • 4657

              #7
              Re: Player Rating Updates

              The problem here is that you guys are going based on Overalls and those probably matter the least of all the ratings. The ratings that should be focused on are those important to the type of player. You can change any number of ratings to boost the overall and that doesn't neccesarily make the player's ratings more realistic.
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              • AngelPingu
                Rookie
                • Jan 2010
                • 353

                #8
                Re: Player Rating Updates

                Originally posted by savoie2006
                The problem here is that you guys are going based on Overalls and those probably matter the least of all the ratings. The ratings that should be focused on are those important to the type of player. You can change any number of ratings to boost the overall and that doesn't neccesarily make the player's ratings more realistic.
                I completely agree with this. That is why I always thought that the players style should affect the overall and more the way they play in the game (Especially when simulating). A playmaker with 99 in passing, puck control, dekeing and off. awareness is an elite playmaker, but the fact that he can have a low shooting attribute will make him only a 80 overall. If it takes in account that the player is suppose to be a playmaker, then he should be a 88, maybe 90 overall player in its style, but if you change it to a sniper, his overall will go down a lot. Mostly like in madden I think. That way, it would be easier to see who's a great passer and who's not. Or at least, make 6 general overalls for each players to ease it up : Playmaking, shooting, defensive play, physical play, skating and intangibles. Then, tweak the ratings from that : A playmaker would have his overall consisting of 40% playmaking, 10% shooting, 10% defensive play, 10% physical play, 15% skating and 15% intangibles, for example (These are just numbers to illustrate my POV), whereas and all around player would likely be 15%-15%-20%-10%-20%-20%.

                Also, I just hope the new sim engine will fix the playmakers with "okay" attributes in shooting to get like 60 or 70 assists a year, just like H. Sedin. I don't know why, but usually, if your player is an amazing sniper but a poor settler, he'll still have like 50 or 60 assists while the one that allows him to score will only get 50 points. It happens a lot like this with the twins in 11.
                Last edited by AngelPingu; 07-08-2011, 02:34 AM.

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                • TylerHowe
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 53

                  #9
                  Re: Player Rating Updates

                  Originally posted by savoie2006
                  The problem here is that you guys are going based on Overalls and those probably matter the least of all the ratings. The ratings that should be focused on are those important to the type of player. You can change any number of ratings to boost the overall and that doesn't neccesarily make the player's ratings more realistic.
                  Of course, but we don't really have the time to do the ratings for every single player.

                  That said, if someone were to post the format, I could try it out for the Habs at least since I have no life.

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                  • Sortman94
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Re: Player Rating Updates

                    Okay some of these MIGHT be a bit lopsided dude to my love for the team, but I'll do my best at rating the Flyers. Feel free to disagree as I am willing to justify all the ratings. The players are in ABC order, and sorted by position,as I am looking at the roster on their website haha.

                    Blair Betts 79
                    Danny Briere 85
                    Claude Giroux 86
                    Scott Hartnell 82
                    Ben Holmstrom 74
                    Jaromir Jagr 83
                    Ian Laperriere 80 (I know he wont play, but its more than likely he'll still be on the team in the game)
                    Andreas Nodl 76
                    Brayden Schenn 77
                    Jody Shelley 78 (based on his player type and the attributes he'll get)
                    Wayne Simmonds 81
                    Max Talbot 80
                    Jakub Voracek 82
                    Eric Wellwood 74
                    James van Riemsdyk 83

                    Oskars Bartulis 76
                    Matt Carle 81
                    Braydon Coburn 82
                    Erik Gustafsson 76
                    Andreas Lilja 78
                    Andrej Meszaros 83
                    Kimmo Timonen 83
                    Chris Pronger 86

                    Sergei Bobrovsky 81
                    Ilya Bryzgalov 87
                    Michael Leighton 79

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                    • onem4n4rmyy
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 15

                      #11
                      Re: Player Rating Updates

                      Lucic 85 - Krejci 86 - Horton 84
                      Marchand 82 - Bergeron 87 - Seguin 81
                      Kelly 80 - Peverley 82 - Pouliot 80
                      Thornton 78 - Campbell 79 - Paille 79

                      Savard 85

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                      • mattg123
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1633

                        #12
                        I am going to make a complete detailed ratings database for NHL 12

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                        • Bosborne
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Re: Player Rating Updates

                          just doing random lines

                          ovechkin-94 backstrom-88 semin-86
                          brouwer-81 chimera-82 knuble-85
                          johansson-83 laich-85 ward-82
                          halpern -78 aucoin-77 hendricks-75
                          eakin-75 king-72 perreault-76

                          D
                          Green-86 schultz- 84
                          alzner -83 carlson- 83
                          hamrlik-82 poti-82
                          wideman-83 erskine-78

                          g
                          vokoun-88
                          neuvirth-84
                          holtby-81

                          top players (not going to do them all just ones i wanted to)

                          crosby-95
                          datsyuk-94
                          toews-92
                          perry-91
                          chara-90
                          lidstrom-90
                          weber-90
                          doughty-89
                          stamkos-93
                          st.louis-89
                          kopitar-88
                          koivu-87
                          kessel-86

                          legends

                          gretzky-98
                          lemieux-97
                          howe-96
                          yzerman-93
                          salming-90
                          roy-95
                          bourque-89
                          chelios-87
                          roenick-88

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                          • Cycloniac
                            Man, myth, legend.
                            • May 2009
                            • 6507

                            #14
                            Re: Player Rating Updates

                            Philadelphia Flyers
                            Danny Briere - 87, Right Wing, non-contact
                            Claude Giroux - 87, Right Wing, Playmaker, Set-up player
                            Scot Hartnell - 82, Left Wing, Power Forward/2 Way Forward
                            Jaromir Jagr - 80, Right Wing
                            Andreas Nodl - 77, Right Wing, Grinder, Dump and Chase
                            Jody Shelley - 75, Left Wing, Touch-Guy, Finishes Hits, Dump and Chase, low dicsipline and high toughness
                            Max Talbot - 80, Center, 2-Way Forward
                            Jakub Voracek - 82, Right Wing, Playmaker, B potential
                            James van-Riemsdyk - 84, Left Wing, A potential
                            Oskars Bartulis - 78, D-Man, 5Offensive D-Man
                            Matt Carle - 80, D-Man, Offensive
                            Braydon Coburn - 83, D-Man, Defensive
                            Chris Pronger - 86, D-Man, Defensive
                            Kimmo Timonen - 81, D-Man, Offensive
                            Andrej Meszaros - 83, D-Man, Offensive
                            Jason Bacashua - 76
                            Ilya Brizgalov - 87
                            Sergei Bobrovsky - 84, low poise, B potential
                            Michael Leighton - 75, low poise
                            THE TrueSim PROJECTS



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                            • sportmatte
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 45

                              #15
                              Re: Player Rating Updates

                              Has the real player ratings gone public yet? IGN use to have them early...

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