Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

**olemiss86** · 07-01-2011, 01:24 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by BruceAlmighty

Are they took busy adjusting the size of Florida State's logo to correctly color WVU's alternate helmets, to ensure that WVU's ribbon boards are added (that are 3 years old and haven't been added)

I don't think it really matters if the stadium ribbons are added. It's not like they work in the game anyway. That's why I'm not upset Ole Miss' isn't on their stadium. All it is, on the game, is just a black strip.

**UMCanes93** · 07-01-2011, 01:26 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

How is this EAs fault? They likely copied their replica of the helmet directly from a mop up from the school or nike...not from a google search.

**BruceAlmighty** · 07-01-2011, 01:29 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by UMCanes93

How is this EAs fault? They likely copied their replica of the helmet directly from a mop up from the school or nike...not from a google search.

How is it NOT EA's fault? They're making the game. You're telling me they can't take thirty seconds to fact check?

I guarantee you that WVU or Nike didn't send them the wrong thing. They messsed it up. Kind of like when WVU had the wrong colored gold pants in 2009/10, and if you wore all gold you had two completely different shades.

I got a PM from Adam Thompson at another site saying that it was an error and would be fixed the next year. So considering they messed up something as simple as proper colors in the pants, there's zero way I'll believe it was an error from Nike or the school.

I'm just trying to call it to attention on the off chance any devs see this thread so they can get it fixed.

**UMCanes93** · 07-01-2011, 01:31 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by BruceAlmighty

How is it NOT EA's fault? They're making the game. You're telling me they can't take thirty seconds to fact check?

I guarantee you that WVU or Nike didn't send them the wrong thing. They messsed it up. Kind of like when WVU had the wrong colored gold pants in 2009/10, and if you wore all gold you had two completely different shades.

I got a PM from Adam Thompson at another site saying that it was an error and would be fixed the next year. So considering they messed up something as simple as proper colors in the pants, there's zero way I'll believe it was an error from Nike or the school.

I'm just trying to call it to attention on the off chance any devs see this thread so they can get it fixed.

So you're assuming? You're assuming that the school didn't send them an incorrect mock-up? Are you aware what they say about assuming?

It makes an ***(out of)u(and)me

**BruceAlmighty** · 07-01-2011, 01:56 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by UMCanes93

So you're assuming? You're assuming that the school didn't send them an incorrect mock-up? Are you aware what they say about assuming?

It makes an a$$(out of)u(and)me

Oh come on, you're really going to give EA the benefit of the doubt when there's so many errors already in the game when it comes to uniforms? Blind defense is just as bad as blind hate.

For instance, using your argument I could also say it's also possible that you're a two foot tall midget with four arms. But I'll assume otherwise.

**UMCanes93** · 07-01-2011, 01:58 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by BruceAlmighty

Oh come on, you're really going to give EA the benefit of the doubt when there's so many errors already in the game when it comes to uniforms? Blind defense is just as bad as blind hate.

For instance, using your argument I could also say it's also possible that you're a two foot tall midget with four arms. But I'll assume otherwise.

My defense is far from blind. It is a known fact that EA uses mock-ups to craft the uniforms that they use in the games, especially ones that are special or one-time use. I have reason to believe that the mock-up had an incorrect color.

**BaylorBearBryant** · 07-01-2011, 02:06 AM

Lol, that's not the flaw I saw when I first compared the pictures. Once I read what you said, I went back and checked. I thought, "Oh, what do you know. He's right. The stripe is a different color. Not what I was thinking though. Ok, next topic."

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**Dr Death** · 07-01-2011, 02:23 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by UMCanes93

My defense is far from blind. It is a known fact that EA uses mock-ups to craft the uniforms that they use in the games, especially ones that are special or one-time use. I have reason to believe that the mock-up had an incorrect color.

And this is where I have to come to Bruce's defense. Tell Iowa fans that EA had a wrong mock-up for years when they had... what was it... grey facemasks instead of black?

Or how about Arizona this year and last w/ a dark blue facemask when the real helmet has white? All they need to do to fix this is simply code in Alabama's old facemask for Arizona... oh wait, that would mean Bama sent in a mock up of their helmet w/ white facemasks...

Or... what about this site??? Where every team has someone posting for them, posting corrections, showing the EA version {wrong} and what it should be {correct}.

One guy posts about FSU's field art and the art team jumps right to it and even shows it in their video, but fans of other teams have been begging for years to get simple things like a facemask correct and yet... they continually go ignored or... worse... the poster is told by an EA rep that it will be fixed and then... it isn't.

So... you can take the "It ain't EA's fault" all you want. The bottom line is they need look no further than this site for correct everything on every freaking one of the 120 teams and yet mistakes still abound year in and year out.

Go check out the new TB... UCLA has one uniform w/ the new PAC-12 logo, the other doesn't. UNLV doesn't even have numbers show up. How does that happen?

I feel for you Bruce. I am no WVU fan, but I read, for Y-E-A-R-S the plight of Iowa fans so I am sure it's no different for you. I've posted for several years how the number 1 fonts on Missouri and Nebraska are wrong... but do they fix those? Nope.

**BaylorBearBryant** · 07-01-2011, 02:35 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

I've said this before. It's still how I feel. If it's a first time mistake, I let it pass. If it isn't addressed in year two, get angry!

If they totally leave out a team or something extreme, that'd be one thing. But a stripe color on an alternate uniform? Well...

**bruinkid626** · 07-01-2011, 03:16 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

I still think that helmet looks great, especially with the lighting.

**Redacted01** · 07-01-2011, 04:48 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by Dr Death

Go check out the new TB... UCLA has one uniform w/ the new PAC-12 logo, the other doesn't. UNLV doesn't even have numbers show up. How does that happen?

New TB isn't finished. They said next week. They never released a statement saying "Oh hey guys, surprise! TB is up early!" Using that in support of your argument doesn't help. There are stadiums and stadium pictures missing. Yea, TB is up... yet UAB's stadium and the bowl game there are missing. High School 1 doesn't show up and High School 2 has a gray icon. It is not finished yet. If you brought up UNLV's jerseys next Friday, then maybe you'd have a point.

Ok, EA doesn't get everything perfect, but a lot of things people complain about are usually nitpicky and aren't preventing you from playing. Sure, it would be nice for it to be accurate, but when tons of teams change things yearly, you can't keep up with it all. Michigan State with the wrong shade of green is a valid argument; that is just an f'up. Messing up a facemask or having a wrong color stripe on a helmet... eh, that seems minor compared to putting your team in the wrong color.

**Dr Death** · 07-01-2011, 05:25 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by dochalladay32

New TB isn't finished. They said next week. They never released a statement saying "Oh hey guys, surprise! TB is up early!" Using that in support of your argument doesn't help... Sure, it would be nice for it to be accurate, but when tons of teams change things yearly, you can't keep up with it all.

Fair enough. But we know they read this site, they showed that in their own video, so the excuse that they can't keep up w/ everything is invalid, because there are threads here that do nothing but update information as it changes and those threads are added to daily throughout the year.

As far as a facemask being wrong or a helmet stripe the wrong color... it may be minor to you, but when it happens to your team... over and over, despite constantly telling EA about it... then yes, it is a major thing.

And once again, I'll bring up the number 1 fonts for Missouri and Nebraska. Each team has all their numbers correct in the game except they have these really fat # 1's and it's like... how does this happen? How do you have the correct font for numbers 2-9 and 0 but the 1's are so fat that if you have a guy who's number 17 it looks horrible. And I've been bringing this "minor" thing up for years, including photos in game and real life photos... yet nothing happens.

I realize coding and programming a game must be a terrific challenge but when they have a network like OS and other sites, and they seemingly pick and choose which posts they'll address, like the FSU example I gave prior, then all that does is make everyone else feel like... WTF???

**Redacted01** · 07-01-2011, 06:07 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Ok, as an Akron alum, I probably have one of the biggest gripes from '11 beyond wrong colors on uniforms. They weren't even aware that the Zips got a new stadium until they were told by students/fans. It bothered me and was disappointing, but it didn't kill me.

So again, I say it, even if it is your team, being excessively bothered by a facemask that is white instead of gray or an extra little logo on the pants to the point where you find the game unplayable... that's excessive. I completely agree, they should fix it, but just because people on here mention it and it may be seen, doesn't mean they can go through and fix the hundreds of problems that are going to be found yearly. I'd much rather see the steady improvements in game play than to have every uniform 100% accurate, because I guarantee there will be a falloff in the rest of the game if they put too much effort into the visuals. I'm wondering how much the team intros took out of them. Already am about 99% assured that conference prestige is not dynamic and that would have been somewhat beneficial, unless they toned down how much conference prestige affects recruiting. They can only do much.

**Dr Death** · 07-01-2011, 06:35 AM

Re: Someone help me understand. RE: WVU Pro Combat

Originally posted by dochalladay32

I completely agree, they should fix it, but just because people on here mention it and it may be seen, doesn't mean they can go through and fix the hundreds of problems that are going to be found yearly. I'd much rather see the steady improvements in game play than to have every uniform 100% accurate, because I guarantee there will be a falloff in the rest of the game if they put too much effort into the visuals.

The only thing I can say about that is, from what I know and what we've been told, the art team and the game play team are two entirely different entities. So I stand by my argument that every year they should have every uniform correct and stadium upgrades shouldn't take three years or more to implement.

And congrats on your not-so-new now stadium but new-in-the-game stadium. It looks awesome!

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