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  • CBizzle
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 192

    #1

    Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

    I'm playing on Heisman, with CPU coverage maxed out at 100, and the CPU is still serving big plays. Posts, verticals, wheels, streaks, etc are always left open down field. AI DB's are not adjusting like they are supposed to, they still stand around and play an area or zone when nobody is there, when they should be going with the WR. I played a 8 min game with USC vs South Carolina last night, switching sides for offense, and used 1 play for each team for a whole half and threw 4 TD's a piece, literally using the exact same play. Just go play a game calling post/vertical/streak/wheel routes and see how the CPU defenders stick to there zone while leaving wide open WR's down field. Press coverage also seems to be broke. CPU presses, safties aren't there to help up top, they're not deep enough or come too late or something. When I see a press it's an automatic huge play every single time. This isn't supposed to be happening with the new zone defense system. Very frustrating, it's made the game basically unplayable for me.
    Last edited by CBizzle; 07-15-2011, 07:34 PM.
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  • btemp
    Rookie
    • Mar 2010
    • 160

    #2
    Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

    +1

    The games unplayable, its just Verticals against Verticals as the AI secondary won't play the ball in the air. I'm at the point where its disadvantageous to have 3rd and long as the CPU just completes a 50 yard bomb everytime.

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    • fishepa
      I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
      • Feb 2003
      • 18989

      #3
      Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

      Gamekiller!!!!!

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      • Gosens6
        All Star
        • Oct 2007
        • 6102

        #4
        Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

        Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

        I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

        It really sounds like we're playing two different games

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        • btemp
          Rookie
          • Mar 2010
          • 160

          #5
          Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

          Originally posted by Gosens6
          Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

          I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

          It really sounds like we're playing two different games
          The problem is the AI playing deep balls in the air (either on the User or CPU team). Even in 2 Man (DBs playing off) the ball is completed deep as the DBs don't fight for the ball or make repeated huge busts.

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          • extremeskins04
            That's top class!
            • Aug 2010
            • 3868

            #6
            Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

            Originally posted by Gosens6
            Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

            I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

            It really sounds like we're playing two different games

            ^This.

            Im on default AA with 25/25 INT sliders and I can barely complete passes longer than 15 yards. Coverage is tight.

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            • sportsgamefanman
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 127

              #7
              Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

              Originally posted by Gosens6
              Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

              I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

              It really sounds like we're playing two different games
              Im playing on Heisman and have CPU pass coverage at 100 too and I'm passing all over the place. I just played Virginia Tech (me) vs Alabama who has a loaded secondary in a 9 min qtr game and it was 31 to 14 me at the end of the 1st quarter. I wasn't even calling verticals...

              I saw no difference in pass coverage at 50 or 100...

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              • Broncos86
                Orange and Blue!
                • May 2009
                • 5505

                #8
                Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                I must be a horrible horrible player. Defenses are challenging me.

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28962

                  #9
                  Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                  Originally posted by Gosens6
                  Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

                  I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

                  It really sounds like we're playing two different games
                  Me too, default AA and I feel like I'm facing a secondary featuring Ed Reed, Deion Sanders, etc. If the CPU calls a pass defense and you call a passing play you pretty much can't throw the ball down field from what I've seen so far.

                  Sometimes you can get something downfield vs Cover 2, if it's Cover 3 or 4 I won't even look down field after I recognize the D they're in.
                  "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                  "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                  • extremeskins04
                    That's top class!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3868

                    #10
                    Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                    I'm playing coach mode and defenses are tight on AA.

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                    • jcern23
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 636

                      #11
                      Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                      I have not noticed it until I read about it on a slider thread and started to air it out my last game and can definitely see this problem. Why is it so difficult to make a football game it must be by far the harder sports game to make for this to be happening on the hardest level. This nonsense does not happen with any other sports. We all got so excited to see the improvements but really whats the point if your gonna play a game for 2 days then sit around and wait for a patch.

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                      • jrod1981
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 389

                        #12
                        Originally posted by extremeskins04
                        I'm playing coach mode and defenses are tight on AA.
                        I'm with you. I tried Heisman twice and was getting picked like mad. Gotta up my stick skills.

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                        • Spanky
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 2785

                          #13
                          Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                          Originally posted by extremeskins04
                          ^This.

                          Im on default AA with 25/25 INT sliders and I can barely complete passes longer than 15 yards. Coverage is tight.
                          It is harder to complete shorter and medium-range passes as coverage is tight. But receivers are open far too regularly on deep routes. If you continuously throw deep passes you'll march up and down the field with ease.
                          It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

                          "What? You can't challenge a scoring play?''

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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #14
                            Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                            Originally posted by Spanky
                            It is harder to complete shorter and medium-range passes as coverage is tight. But receivers are open far too regularly on deep routes. If you continuously throw deep passes you'll march up and down the field with ease.
                            I wouldn't know because no matter who I use my OL is sieve on AA or Heisman. I never have enough time to let my WRs get that deep down the field.
                            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                            • Gosens6
                              All Star
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 6102

                              #15
                              Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

                              Originally posted by Spanky
                              It is harder to complete shorter and medium-range passes as coverage is tight. But receivers are open far too regularly on deep routes. If you continuously throw deep passes you'll march up and down the field with ease.
                              I'm not seeing this at all..

                              If anything, the secondary is too good in this game. Some of you guys must be really exceptional players

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