Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

[helix139]

Yep, that's right. Sadly, it's not hard to do and after the game I was able to easily duplicate in practice mode because it's just audibling into a REGULAR PLAY.

Was playing online Florida against a guy playing FSU last night and every play, the dude would match me personnel-wise (4-3 against 21 or 12 personnel, nickel, dime, or quarter against 10, 01, or empty), then audible into a 4-4 LB-fire and control the LOLB. Every single time, someone (usually the nose tackle after your center ignores him to go whiff on the blitzing LILB) comes through unblocked unless you slide protection right, in which case he blitzes off the edge manually with the LOLB completely unblocked to hit you before you complete your drop, and yes I tried using 6 and even 7-man protection against this. unblocked DT problem is still there unless protection is slid right exposing your from the left.

Normally, one would think to answer this with a liberal dose of quick slants and 4-verticals out of trips. Well, it's a great idea in theory until he institutes unbeatable press coverage on all of your receivers.

So just a heads up. Watch out for this one.

[jmik58]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Yep, that's right. Sadly, it's not hard to do and after the game I was able to easily duplicate in practice mode because it's just audibling into a REGULAR PLAY.

Was playing online Florida against a guy playing FSU last night and every play, the dude would match me personnel-wise (4-3 against 21 or 12 personnel, nickel, dime, or quarter against 10, 01, or empty), then audible into a 4-4 LB-fire and control the LOLB. Every single time, someone (usually the nose tackle after your center ignores him to go whiff on the blitzing LILB) comes through unblocked unless you slide protection right, in which case he blitzes off the edge manually with the LOLB completely unblocked to hit you before you complete your drop, and yes I tried using 6 and even 7-man protection against this. unblocked DT problem is still there unless protection is slid right exposing your from the left.

Normally, one would think to answer this with a liberal dose of quick slants and 4-verticals out of trips. Well, it's a great idea in theory until he institutes unbeatable press coverage on all of your receivers.

So just a heads up. Watch out for this one.

Go Shotgun - 4 or 5 wide. All verticals and hit the quick seam. Give him a taste of his own medicine.

[helix139]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Go Shotgun - 4 or 5 wide. All verticals and hit the quick seam. Give him a taste of his own medicine.

Tried it. Like I said, unbeatable press coverage, and scrambling really screws up your accuracy. Sacked before my receivers can get off the line as you then run into the fundamental problem of him being able to rush one more than you can block even if you slide protection to the right and he's pass committing every time since he doesn't have to worry about the rush beating him. I had occasional success with the tight end and demps on wheels out of the backfield but more often than not didn't have time to get an accurate pass off even out of shotgun or he'd manually spy Demps.

It also really irked me that even when I would buy enough time and my outside receivers could get off the press and get downfield, his DBs recover and would be with them step for step even on go routes and even though my receivers have higher speed ratings (Rainey and Deonte Thompson are both 95+ speed).

[tikyle]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

OP,

I understand your pain b/c UF has no WR who can get off the press and FSU has a nasty D. The only suggestion I would have is to run Demps where the blitz isn't going. Because if he gets through the first line with him being in a 4-4 its almost an automatic TD. Other than that and passes to the HB I don't know what you could've done. It was a mixture of the nano-blitz and matchup problems.

[BROman]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

How bout shallow crosses & meshes? Lob it as soon as they get off their jams.

[UKwannabe]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Did you try running the ball?

[Palo20]

Does putting a WR in motion help him avoid the bump? For instance the mesh plays where the WR uses short auto motion.

[jmik58]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Tried it. Like I said, unbeatable press coverage, and scrambling really screws up your accuracy. Sacked before my receivers can get off the line as you then run into the fundamental problem of him being able to rush one more than you can block even if you slide protection to the right and he's pass committing every time since he doesn't have to worry about the rush beating him. I had occasional success with the tight end and demps on wheels out of the backfield but more often than not didn't have time to get an accurate pass off even out of shotgun or he'd manually spy Demps.

It also really irked me that even when I would buy enough time and my outside receivers could get off the press and get downfield, his DBs recover and would be with them step for step even on go routes and even though my receivers have higher speed ratings (Rainey and Deonte Thompson are both 95+ speed).

If he's going to a 4-4 and blitzing then you should have mismatches all over the board when you're 5 wide.

Some things you can do.

- Add an audible for a jailbreak screen to one of your WR's or just keep calling that play.
- If he's jamming all your receivers, put one of them in motion (preferrably your best matchup [WR on LB].
- Utilize a TE or a slot receiver just off the OT. Hit the receiver with a quick pop pass.

The best thing to do when someone blitzes is to replace the blitzer with a receiver. If he's bringing the OLB every play, then throw to that spot.

[MagicMan1315]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Or... this stuff shouldnt be in the game in the first place.. But this is why I dont play online. And IF I do (big IF there) it will only be in an OD...

[PaperBoyx703]

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RAGE QUIT!!!...No I'd go goaline or use the mesh plays. Slide protect inside and sweep or toss plays help. Motion Wrs when running to have a weakside.

[chrisphil1724]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Screen pass? If all his doing is the same play over and over, find a screen pass that works and run it over and over till her changes his play. That will in turn open up your playbook a bit.

[woody2goody]

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Yeah I'm guessing drag patterns for the slot receivers would work, because he'll have no cover there surely?

Would draw plays be any use against that sort of defence?

[helix139]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

OP,

I understand your pain b/c UF has no WR who can get off the press and FSU has a nasty D. The only suggestion I would have is to run Demps where the blitz isn't going. Because if he gets through the first line with him being in a 4-4 its almost an automatic TD. Other than that and passes to the HB I don't know what you could've done. It was a mixture of the nano-blitz and matchup problems.

Running Demps doesnt work. Tosses, and stretch plays get chased down by the safety and/or LB, and anything up the middle gets blown up by the unblocked DT.

How bout shallow crosses & meshes? Lob it as soon as they get off their jams.

I'm sacked by the time they get off their jams.

Did you try running the ball?

Yes, as explained above.

Does putting a WR in motion help him avoid the bump? For instance the mesh plays where the WR uses short auto motion.

Nope, tried that and the DB just moves with him and jams him.

If he's going to a 4-4 and blitzing then you should have mismatches all over the board when you're 5 wide.

In theory yes, in practice...

Some things you can do.

- Add an audible for a jailbreak screen to one of your WR's or just keep calling that play.

Tried it. pressed corner doesn't get blocked well and blows up the receiver as soon as he catches it

- If he's jamming all your receivers, put one of them in motion (preferrably your best matchup [WR on LB].

Tried it. Still jammed.

- Utilize a TE or a slot receiver just off the OT. Hit the receiver with a quick pop pass.

Tried it. Occasional success but usually broken up by super LB in man coverage on the TE

The best thing to do when someone blitzes is to replace the blitzer with a receiver. If he's bringing the OLB every play, then throw to that spot.

He's not bringing the OLB. He's bringing both ILBs and theres a nano on the DT, and he's matching personnel and jamming on the outside. Other problem is when you get pressure on Brantley of any sort he becomes wildly inaccurate, so the times I did manage to use 5 WR to generate an open man, I'd generally end up with a ball way off target due to the incoming nano DT.

[helix139]

Re: Ran into my first nano blitzer last night

Screen pass? If all his doing is the same play over and over, find a screen pass that works and run it over and over till her changes his play. That will in turn open up your playbook a bit.

Tried both HB and WR screens and they get blown up because the defender is already behind the blockers when they release and they just go for a sunday stroll to their area.

Yeah I'm guessing drag patterns for the slot receivers would work, because he'll have no cover there surely?

Would draw plays be any use against that sort of defence?

Drags don't work due to inability to get off the jam, and if they do get off the jam they have a defender on them like glue.

Draws get blown up right away by the nano DT.

[BhamTiger]

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Crap like this is why I don't play online. Cheese is meant to be eaten, not played with.