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  • booker21
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 4928

    #1

    DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

    Well i´m seeing this more and more. DT makes 90% of the sacks for the DL. DE rarely sacks the QB.

    Anyone else experience this?
    English, is not my first language.
  • buckeye02
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 4152

    #2
    Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

    Funny you bring this up. I'm a DC for Memphis, so i just call the plays. My DT lead the nation in sacks with 15.5

    He was a 71 overall
    PSN: buckeye02

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    • SteelerSpartan
      MVP
      • Apr 2007
      • 2884

      #3
      Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...id-inside.html

      No slider adjustments help, and its not due to the Roster Glitch.....EA just (expletive) it up really bad this year
      Here We Go Steelers!!! Here We Go!!!

      My CFB Teams:
      Marshall..WVU-Go Herd/Eeers!!!


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      • okstate19
        Rookie
        • Nov 2007
        • 432

        #4
        Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

        I'm in my 2nd year as Washington State and my left end leads my team in sacks. I find that he and another DT get to the quarterback almost an equal amount of times. I think my end is just lucky at times. He's like 77 ovr.

        I'm pretty sure I'm the exception and not the rule with as many people that have reported problems though.

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        • I OU a Beatn
          Rookie
          • Dec 2007
          • 16

          #5
          Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

          Yeah, I think they need to crank up the pressure generated by Defensive Ends. It seems if you bring blitzers off the edge it takes them an eternity to get there as well.

          On the flip side, there's probably too much pressure up the middle from the Tackles. Steeler even caught a couple of instances in his video where the problem lies - the offensive lineman just disengages his block and let's the tackle go right to the QB after a second or two.

          Hopefully EA adjusts this via a tuner patch like they did last year.

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          • Sabo's corked Bat
            Banned
            • Mar 2011
            • 321

            #6
            Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

            Not seeing this. My Ends do good. My DTs will get sacks if I pull an End to the other side etc.

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            • squadron supreme
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 99

              #7
              Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

              Its funny because Madden last year had the exact same problem. No matter who the LT was he was pass blocking like a hall of famer. The defensive tackles were using the invincible swim move of death to sack the quarterback. Now instead of the swim move its the rip move with college defensive tackles.

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              • Mtneer08
                Rookie
                • Jul 2007
                • 392

                #8
                Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                Only when i control them.

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                • tetoleetd
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1151

                  #9
                  Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                  in the first year of my dynasty, my DT did have over 10 sacks....but my 2 DE's also has close to 10 each.

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                  • ucas005
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 505

                    #10
                    Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                    Originally posted by SteelerSpartan
                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...id-inside.html

                    No slider adjustments help, and its not due to the Roster Glitch.....EA just (expletive) it up really bad this year
                    The video here pretty much sums it up. Watch the DEs. Over and over they run the same canned animation while the DTs have a variety of moves and angles of pursuit. I jacked up Jenkins, DE, FSU to 99 ratings across the board and matched him up against a LT whom I lowered the rating of to 50 across the board. Using Play Now mode Jenkins still ran the same animation and was still stood up over and over. With a ratings difference of that you would think Jenkins would beat the LT at least 70% of the time either by speed rushing right around him or outside/inside swim move.

                    You can occasionally get pressure from DEs evident by people reporting sacks by their DEs. However the dominant pass rushing DEs don't, well, dominate like they should or never use a repertoire of pass rushing moves to get after the QB unlike what the DTs do.

                    Setting your defensive line game plan to aggressive does help as well. In 2 games (out of 8) my jacked up Jenkins was able to go right around the LT twice and get a sack both times against low rated LTs. Other than those 2 plays though he ran the same flippin DE animation mirroring the other DE.

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                    • C_Bailey24
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 691

                      #11
                      Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                      Not seeing this either. Playing a dynasty with Tennessee one of my DE's has had 10+ sack seasons two years in a row. The DT's are a little overly effective at times though.

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                      • RogueHominid
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 10903

                        #12
                        Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                        I have a question about this. So after I learned that the CPU DE will not use rush moves, I decided to use the DE myself for a while. I was unable to get the rush moves to trigger manually, though. Has anyone else had this problem? I would wait till I engaged the OT, then use the L stick (left or right) and would get nothing but the patty cake animation.

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                        • Bighoff
                          The Bird is the word
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5312

                          #13
                          Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                          I have found that if my I control my DT and pressure the QB if I can't get the sack the DE will clean it up for me. I haven't noticed the DE not getting and sack, my DE is the sack leader in the nation and I am using LBs 95% of the time.
                          I've heard this "patience is a virtue" junk all my life. I'm happy to say I have no virtue, no scruples, and no desire to wait too long for anything. In my humble opinion instant gratification takes too long!

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                          • patsfan1993
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 948

                            #14
                            Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                            Originally posted by Trojan Man
                            I have a question about this. So after I learned that the CPU DE will not use rush moves, I decided to use the DE myself for a while. I was unable to get the rush moves to trigger manually, though. Has anyone else had this problem? I would wait till I engaged the OT, then use the L stick (left or right) and would get nothing but the patty cake animation.
                            Yep right there with you. I usually use the DT and just blast through the line regularly. Tried the DE and played patty cake with the T

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                            • booker21
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4928

                              #15
                              Re: DT sacks only? DE never reach the QB

                              glad i´m not the only one, hopefully EA patch this as well.
                              English, is not my first language.

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