C'Mon, MLB The Show...Seriously?!

[murphyHOF]

I just lost a Braves season game 8-7 to the Astros that I was leading going into the bottom of the 9th up 7-1. I fast forward through my defensive half-innings, and I got royally screwed. Here is the game log...

Astros Batting, Eric O' Flaherty Pitching

1) groundout 5-3 (1 out)
2) walk
3) double, RBI (Braves 7- Astros 2)
4) E3, Freeman
5) strikeout (2 outs)
6) single, RBI (7-3)
Craig Kimbrel pitching
7) walk
8) Grand slam, 4 RBI (7-7)
9) E4, Prado
10) E8, Schafer
11) single,1 RBI, game over, Astros win 8-7

I know things like this happen in baseball, but 3 ERRORS in the 9th to cost me the game???

That just seems more than a random thing...Prado and Freeman were "fatigued", so I'm guessing that had something to do with it. Schafer, who knows? Maddeningly frustrating and it makes me want to break the game disc in two.

The two most overblown things in this game are player fatigue and pitcher confidence, by far.

[tofubrain2]

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time to sent kimbrel to AAA...why couldn't something like this happen in the bigs? while i agree with your last statement the very idea that something like this is not feasible is something i have a hard time agreeing with.

i've won games like this and i've lost games like this.

[coolguy124]

Re: C'Mon, MLB The Show...Seriously?!

I just lost a Braves season game 8-7 to the Astros that I was leading going into the bottom of the 9th up 7-1. I fast forward through my defensive half-innings, and I got royally screwed. Here is the game log...

Astros Batting, Eric O' Flaherty Pitching

1) groundout 5-3 (1 out)
2) walk
3) double, RBI (Braves 7- Astros 2)
4) E3, Freeman
5) strikeout (2 outs)
6) single, RBI (7-3)
Craig Kimbrel pitching
7) walk
8) Grand slam, 4 RBI (7-7)
9) E4, Prado
10) E8, Schafer
11) single,1 RBI, game over, Astros win 8-7

I know things like this happen in baseball, but 3 ERRORS in the 9th to cost me the game???

That just seems more than a random thing...Prado and Freeman were "fatigued", so I'm guessing that had something to do with it. Schafer, who knows? Maddeningly frustrating and it makes me want to break the game disc in two.

The two most overblown things in this game are player fatigue and pitcher confidence, by far.

thats what u get for simming i never sim karma

[murphyHOF]

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time to sent kimbrel to AAA...why couldn't something like this happen in the bigs? while i agree with your last statement the very idea that something like this is not feasible is something i have a hard time agreeing with.

i've won games like this and i've lost games like this.

As have I, but three guys with above avg. fielding ratings committing errors in the bottom of the 9th because of the fatigue factor? (and Schafer was NOT fatigued, by the way)

It's just a really cheap way to lose a game and it sucks when (it seems) there are more forces at work than just the abilities of the pitchers, hitters, and fielders.

[moemoe24]

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I don't understand those who complain about stuff like this happening. I really know how to express in words what I'm trying to say, but I guess what I'm saying is how do you expect to ever lose if it's not random. I mean I always hear someone ranting and raving about blowing a save or the CPU coming back when down big. What do you want? Do you want to win every game? And if that's not what you're expecting then how else can they make the game so that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

Of course it's going to be random, all sports video games are. I'm sure it's programmed a certain way to a degree. Eventually x will happen after so many games or so many AB's or chances in the field. I just don't know what the guys who complain about this want. If I'm up 7-1 in the 8th and end up losing I just look at it like I would if I were really playing, that my opponent got it's stuff together and came back and beat me.

I guess I just see that as something that happens all the time in real life and it's part of what makes this game fun.....that no lead is safe.

[Black59Razr]

Re: C'Mon, MLB The Show...Seriously?!

I just lost a Braves season game 8-7 to the Astros that I was leading going into the bottom of the 9th up 7-1. I fast forward through my defensive half-innings, and I got royally screwed. Here is the game log...

Astros Batting, Eric O' Flaherty Pitching

1) groundout 5-3 (1 out)
2) walk
3) double, RBI (Braves 7- Astros 2)
4) E3, Freeman
5) strikeout (2 outs)
6) single, RBI (7-3)
Craig Kimbrel pitching
7) walk
8) Grand slam, 4 RBI (7-7)
9) E4, Prado
10) E8, Schafer
11) single,1 RBI, game over, Astros win 8-7

I know things like this happen in baseball, but 3 ERRORS in the 9th to cost me the game???

That just seems more than a random thing...Prado and Freeman were "fatigued", so I'm guessing that had something to do with it. Schafer, who knows? Maddeningly frustrating and it makes me want to break the game disc in two.

The two most overblown things in this game are player fatigue and pitcher confidence, by far.

That sucks. How can TheShow be so cheesy with these comebacks. I had a comeback that made me brake the game myself.

I was Seattle, playing against Cleveland. I was up 14-2 in the 7th inning and lost. Oh wait, that wasn't TheShow, that was real life

[murphyHOF]

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I don't understand those who complain about stuff like this happening. I really know how to express in words what I'm trying to say, but I guess what I'm saying is how do you expect to ever lose if it's not random. I mean I always hear someone ranting and raving about blowing a save or the CPU coming back when down big. What do you want? Do you want to win every game? And if that's not what you're expecting then how else can they make the game so that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

Of course it's going to be random, all sports video games are. I'm sure it's programmed a certain way to a degree. Eventually x will happen after so many games or so many AB's or chances in the field. I just don't know what the guys who complain about this want. If I'm up 7-1 in the 8th and end up losing I just look at it like I would if I were really playing, that my opponent got it's stuff together and came back and beat me.

I guess I just see that as something that happens all the time in real life and it's part of what makes this game fun.....that no lead is safe.

It would not bother me if it really did seem random. Blown saves happen, 9th inning rallies happen, but this seems anything but random. Now, I'm NOT saying that the outcome was pre-determined. I am saying that the fatigue variable, which seems to influence fielding errors, has been given way too much impact on player attributes.

By the way, dude, this a forum and I have every right to rant and rave within the forum guidelines. One, I can let off some steam if I want after a bad loss. Two, I rant and rave with the idea that someone will take notice and improve the product if there is, in fact, something wrong in the game's design. I don't need you trying to discredit my thread.

[Suvorov]

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I agree with MoeMoe. No one ever comes on to complain about how THEY came from behind late in the game to win, but will complain non stop when the computer does it.

Also, as a Marlins fan and every time I see a post like this, I would like to introduce you to game 6 of the 2003 playoffs against the Cubs.

[bcruise]

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I agree with MoeMoe. No one ever comes on to complain about how THEY came from behind late in the game to win, but will complain non stop when the computer does it.

Also, as a Marlins fan and every time I see a post like this, I would like to introduce you to game 6 of the 2003 playoffs against the Cubs.

I'm not going to "like" this post because it goes against principle as a Cub fan, but I certainly agree with the concept of this post.

[moemoe24]

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It would not bother me if it really did seem random. Blown saves happen, 9th inning rallies happen, but this seems anything but random. Now, I'm NOT saying that the outcome was pre-determined. I am saying that the fatigue variable, which seems to influence fielding errors, has been given way too much impact on player attributes.

By the way, dude, this a forum and I have every right to rant and rave within the forum guidelines. One, I can let off some steam if I want after a bad loss. Two, I rant and rave with the idea that someone will take notice and improve the product if there is, in fact, something wrong in the game's design. I don't need you trying to discredit my thread.

what the hell are you talking about? You state how you feel but I'm discrediting your thread for saying what I think? What, you want a world where everyone agrees with you all the time? That's life "dude".

And by the way, please point out where I said you can't rant and rave. But when you rant and rave you have to accept what comes with it. It's happened to me here before too. Said something stupid out of frustration and get called on it.

[Suvorov]

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I'm not going to "like" this post because it goes against principle as a Cub fan, but I certainly agree with the concept of this post.

Sorry to bring up a bad memory bcruise. I am hoping to see the 'Curse' ended some day really soon, just so I can say I watched the Series when the Cubs finally won it.

[murphyHOF]

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I'm not going to "like" this post because it goes against principle as a Cub fan, but I certainly agree with the concept of this post.

You guys aren't getting the point of the thread

I have comeback from several runs down myself playing this game. I have been beaten by comebacks....It happens.

But I have never seen three errors committed in one inning, much less by good fielding players, before in any game I have ever played when I am hitting against the CPU.

Does no one else think that something like that is more than just a random occurrence in the game?

[moemoe24]

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If that happened often then I would say it's bs, if it happens one time in your season I think you chalk it up a one bad game.

I had a game back in June, I was playing the mariners at home. It
was tied in the 6th and all of the sudden it gets out of hand. Beltre bobbles a ground ball, Napoli throws the ball over the 2nd baseman and then Guitterez hits a lazy fly to center. I looked away from the tv because I was camped under the ball. I turn back around and Chavez is running to get the ball that rolled all the way to the wall.....he just flat missed it. Seattle scored 6 runs on just 3 hits with 3 errors by me.

If you've watched the rangers play in real life you know that kind of inning is for sure possible and has even happened.

[Suvorov]

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I have seen 3 once, two a couple of times. The 3 happened in my favor while playing. I have had several 2 error innings and in fact I had one just last night when my 3B made 2 throwing errors in one inning. The next game he made 2, 1 fielding and 1 throwing(not in the same inning) and the next day he packed his bags and moved back to AAA so I could save what little sanity I had remaining.

[moemoe24]

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the next day he packed his bags and moved back to AAA so I could save what little sanity I had remaining.

I wish I could do that to Elvis Andrus. He tees me off real bad. His bad fielding trumps his bad hitting.