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  • ChaseB
    #BringBackFaceuary
    • Oct 2003
    • 9844

    #1

    Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions


    Contentious, heated, excitable. Whatever buzzword I use, it probably can't properly sum up the way things get around here once the Madden demo hits each year. It truly is exciting and terrifying all at once. The staff has been playing the demo like all you folks out there, and they have a wide range of views on the game.

    So read on to find out what some of our writers think about the Madden 12 demo at this point.

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  • wheelman990
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 2233

    #2
    Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

    I think those that stated this game just doesnt feel like football were right on the money. It feels arcade. It feels like Madden, not NFL football. I also can't help but think I will also play a football title from the past another year, like the one staff member wrote. When does that exclusive end again?

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    • DeuceDouglas
      Madden Dev Team
      • Apr 2010
      • 4297

      #3
      2k5 needs to die. There was a reason it was 20 dollars. I would rather play Tecmo Super Bowl than that trash.

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      • XtremeDunkz
        CNFL Commissioner
        • Aug 2007
        • 3414

        #4
        Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

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        • addybojangles
          Rookie
          • Feb 2005
          • 99

          #5
          Madden needs a new engine.

          I came away totally unimpressed with the demo. It just felt off. I went into instant replay after a few plays and saw janky animations, "cheat" animations (like a ball's flight defying gravity to zig to a player's arms), clipping, and a ball's spiral actually stop and rotate the complete opposite direction.

          Meh!

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          • dannyr326
            Rookie
            • Jul 2010
            • 48

            #6
            I absolutely love the new collision system. That's one aspect that just feels realistic and stands out as an amazing improvement from last year. Presentation is improved, graphics, etc, (but those aspects are pretty much expected at this point).

            My main gripe is along the lines of what Jayson and Steve mentioned. The Psychic Cornerbacks are simply ruining the fun of "threading the needle" on higher difficulties and as Jayson said "player warping make it feel like the CPU is at tims cheating you on defense instead of legitimately outsmarting you with superior tactics or skills"

            ***I am shocked because the WR/CB interactions have been broken every year this generation.***

            *Go ahead and try to fit the ball in those tight spots and the Corner will be facing in the complete opposite direction (running full speed), and still change direction in a split second to make the interception.

            Fix those problems mentioned above, bring back the importance of controlling ball placement/ trajectory, and implement real-time physics (as the NHL series was able to accomplish) and I will be content with Madden football.

            Does anyone out there agree?

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            • therockstar2005
              Rookie
              • Aug 2007
              • 330

              #7
              I think the best piece of news is what Christian was talking about - that the E3 build (hopefully a later one, not earlier) played better than the demo does. If so, while the demo might not be the best, I'd rather have a great final product with a ho-hum demo...Again, still some optimism for the game
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              • TreFacTor
                MVP
                • Oct 2009
                • 1138

                #8
                I'm glad that I'm not the only one who saw the flaws in the demo. I really hope the final version is leaps and bounds better with whatever tweaks are made. I still have to wait for patch one and the list of what it fixes befor I can make a purchase decision. One thing I saw no one mention was DPP. Is it me or is it that 5 min qrts with acc clock don't allow this feature to be showcased or is it simply absent.

                For instance knox was stated to drop open passes and he was actually my main target because hester seemed to draw dbl coverage on most pass plays. Grant was said to fight for extra yardage and should cover the ball more if he fumbled but after making him cough it up his running style didn't change.

                One area I felt was a glaring issue was the repetitve and cloned animations. I juked 3 defenders coming at me and 2 did the same slip animation at the EXACT SAME TIME. Again I truely hope the most obvious "issues" are ironed out.

                Good read.
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                • DeuceDouglas
                  Madden Dev Team
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4297

                  #9
                  I think that this demo is a huge step forward from Madden 11. I do agree with the fact that the speed does feel a bit faster than last years but I don't think it is to the point where you can say the game is arcade. NFL Blitz is arcade. I also absolutely love the new collision system. It makes everything seem so much smoother and the absence of seeing a receiver jet the last five yards of a route is wonderful.

                  I also think the zone defense have been done very well. I've been playing a lot of Madden 11 recently and on higher difficulty the defenders would literally run your receivers route before he did. With the new defensive approach I was able to complete routes that were an afterthought on M11.

                  Also, I think the graphics and presentation have been done very well. I love the way players look and I like all the post play cut scenes. I thought the halftime set up was good, the only addition I would have liked to see is a team stat comparison but that's no biggie. The colors and lighting are awesome. I'm not even a fan of the Bears or Packers and I've already played like 10 or so games and will continue playing it up until release.

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                  • Dashdagreat
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 40

                    #10
                    TOTALLY agree with Jayson and Steve! I couldnt have said it any better.... i dont see where the optimism is coming from from some people... I honestly thought it was just bad! NCAA is a GREAT game! I love that game and though it have flaws, THAT title is heading in the right direction. Madden is just not... to me problems and i dont want to hear the its just a demo. A demo is suppose to make u want to buy the game not say o thats ok its the demo. NCAA was rough but good and made you say "Hey that final build is going to be GREAT!".

                    Madden just made me say....hmmm.....well at least i got NCAA!

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                    • Dashdagreat
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 40

                      #11
                      Caley u summed it up for me..

                      "I am having fun with the demo, but, again, it doesn't feel like NFL football to me -- just an upgraded version of Madden that we have been playing for years. "

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                      • seasprite
                        Phenom
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 8984

                        #12
                        Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                        Originally posted by Dashdagreat
                        TOTALLY agree with Jayson and Steve! I couldnt have said it any better.... i dont see where the optimism is coming from from some people... I honestly thought it was just bad! NCAA is a GREAT game! I love that game and though it have flaws, THAT title is heading in the right direction. Madden is just not... to me problems and i dont want to hear the its just a demo. A demo is suppose to make u want to buy the game not say o thats ok its the demo. NCAA was rough but good and made you say "Hey that final build is going to be GREAT!".

                        Madden just made me say....hmmm.....well at least i got NCAA!
                        I would rather play the demo of M12 all day than play another game of the retail NCAA. AA this year is so full of glitches and breakdowns its hardly playable. The player(especially DBs) warping through WRs and TEs is the most frustrating thing I have ever encountered with a football video game. Its a shame to, because I put AA above Madden for the last 4 years.






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                        • pittsburgher86
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 279

                          #13
                          Aren't demo's not the final build of a game? And if not we will probably have a day patch and aren't there tuner sets this year as well? I personally am enjoying the demo and can't wait for August 30th.
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                          • blklightning
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1294

                            #14
                            Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                            no big loss for me. i'll just wait a few more weeks and pick up the hd splinter cell collection in late september. sorry ea; better luck next year.
                            My score for Madden 13: 4.5/10

                            3 points for graphics, 1 point for the passable commentary, and a half point for the boxart. I can give no further points since the all over the place gameplay would ruin it anyway.

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                            • blklightning
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1294

                              #15
                              Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                              Originally posted by Dashdagreat
                              TOTALLY agree with Jayson and Steve! I couldnt have said it any better.... i dont see where the optimism is coming from from some people... I honestly thought it was just bad! NCAA is a GREAT game! I love that game and though it have flaws, THAT title is heading in the right direction. Madden is just not... to me problems and i dont want to hear the its just a demo. A demo is suppose to make u want to buy the game not say o thats ok its the demo. NCAA was rough but good and made you say "Hey that final build is going to be GREAT!".

                              Madden just made me say....hmmm.....well at least i got NCAA!
                              imo, ncaa is absolutely terrible. they have to resort to the biggest cheat tactics they can think of to give you a challenge. go try nba 2k11 to see how giving the user a challenge is supposed to be done.
                              My score for Madden 13: 4.5/10

                              3 points for graphics, 1 point for the passable commentary, and a half point for the boxart. I can give no further points since the all over the place gameplay would ruin it anyway.

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