Where are the gameplay videos?

[DJ]

I'm starting to get a little worried about this. The game is a month away from release, and aside from some teaser trailers and a few EA Developer blogs, we have seen next to nothing when it comes to gameplay videos for NHL 12.

Where's some CPU vs. CPU footage of say, one period of action? Or even an entire game? If not CPU vs. CPU, than at least grab a couple of developers and have them play a game, film it and post it.

It'd be nice to see the player traits and AI improvements actually at work, instead of just reading about them or seeing a 1-minute video (really 40 seconds after the intro and closing).

[FBeaule04]

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Gameplay? Why gameplay? Who cares about gameplay?!?

All we need is video of the pause menu, action tracker, how to change position preset, and the big announcement without showing anything.

[Section_25]

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Almost makes you think they are hiding something intentionally...I sure hope they are saving the best for last cause what I have seen so far, well, I'm actually considering waiting for the reviews before I pre-order or anything

[tofubrain2]

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i think that in total the customers of the NHL series are some of the most bitter and resentful fanbases of any game period. why release video to anyone anyways? most of the people on here would devour it like a pack of pirahnas smelling blood.

"good things come to those who wait"

[FBeaule04]

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i think that in total the customers of the NHL series are some of the most bitter and resentful fanbases of any game period. why release video to anyone anyways? most of the people on here would devour it like a pack of pirahnas smelling blood.

"good things come to those who wait"

While I don't agree with all you said, you're right, there would be some real love lust with a complete video.

In fact, if there's no video showing a period of CPU vs CPU gameplay, it's must be because they aren't testing the game enough, and that with NHL 11, just watch a CPU vs CPU game for a period was enough to show that the AI was pure crap.

So, in a way, I understand why there's no long footage of the gameplay. With the demo, they're protected since they can argue that it's not the final version that will go on the market.

By the way, NHL customer are the worse? Go take a peak at what's been said in Madden forum for the last few years. You'll see that in comparison, people playing the hockey game are pretty nice!

[boilermakernet08]

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Gameplay? Why gameplay? Who cares about gameplay?!?

All we need is video of the pause menu, action tracker, how to change position preset, and the big announcement without showing anything.

LMAO!! That's enough for a good number of suckers to go out and pre-order the game!

[onlybygrace]

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What is the extreme need for gameplay footage all about when there will be a demo???

[Vikes1]

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I'm starting to get a little worried about this. The game is a month away from release, and aside from some teaser trailers and a few EA Developer blogs, we have seen next to nothing when it comes to gameplay videos for NHL 12.

Yep Dan, I've been thinking the exact same thing....where the hell's the game videos? For that matter, we've hardly even see much of anything for screen shots! Normally...there's screen shots coming out of our ears. But this year....wth?

As you mentioned, with the gameplay additions of anticipation AI, dynamic goalies, player traits...one, one minute videos of these features is all we've seen. Imo, that's not doing much of a job of selling me on this game. I mean, they mentioned [repeatedly] the glass breaking and goalie fights....ahhh, ok.

I've been actually thinking about this for a while now. That EA imo, hasn't really stirred up much excitement for this years game. And I believe simply not seeing [at least to this point] what the game really has to offer, is a big part of it. As of today, with what we've seen of this game...I feel as though I'd be blindly buying it. They must plan on REALLY pouring in on these next few weeks is all I can figure.

As you know Dan, I'll have the game on 9-13. And I sure hope the game is far better than their advertising campaign this year.

[DJ]

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What is the extreme need for gameplay footage all about when there will be a demo???

Well for me, I want to see retail footage so I can get a gauge on the frequency of stat overlays, if new cutscenes have been introduced, if the commentary has been updated at all, things like that. I also want to see how the CPU handles itself in regards to defending the center and blue lines, if your AI teammates actually respond to you and each other, instead of skating in circles.

The demo will give me a good handle on how the game plays, but you really can't see all of what the game will be in a short demo. Look at Madden and NCAA; both released a lot of videos of the retail version prior to and after the Demo. I can't sit here and say that those videos didn't help me decide to buy either game, because they did.

I really like the NHL series, but I feel like, as Vikes said, I'm buying this one blindly and I don't like that.

[Mikey88]

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I'm starting to get a little worried about this. The game is a month away from release, and aside from some teaser trailers and a few EA Developer blogs, we have seen next to nothing when it comes to gameplay videos for NHL 12.

Where's some CPU vs. CPU footage of say, one period of action? Or even an entire game? If not CPU vs. CPU, than at least grab a couple of developers and have them play a game, film it and post it.

It'd be nice to see the player traits and AI improvements actually at work, instead of just reading about them or seeing a 1-minute video (really 40 seconds after the intro and closing).

I guess we'll see if your theory is right when we check out the demo! Who knows, maybe you're right in that they're not showing any game play vids because its gonna be the same old or even worse!
They have shown us some of those quick clips though, and they were ok i guess.

[ComaFaction]

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I get a bit of a Madden 11 vibe from NHL this year. To me, they changed barely anything between those games, almost like their development time was spent on a 2 year plan where most things got implemented this year. And Madden 12 does feel fresh (to me at least).

NHL 12 is looking like a VERY minor upgrade in my books. Perhaps 13 is when they flesh things out again. I'm thinking of passing for the first time since.....geez....ever?

[RealmK]

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I get a bit of a Madden 11 vibe from NHL this year. To me, they changed barely anything between those games, almost like their development time was spent on a 2 year plan where most things got implemented this year. And Madden 12 does feel fresh (to me at least).

NHL 12 is looking like a VERY minor upgrade in my books. Perhaps 13 is when they flesh things out again. I'm thinking of passing for the first time since.....geez....ever?

I don't consider a sim engine built from the ground up to work correctly (we hope) as minor. Nor the Adaptive AI IF (and its a big IF) it works as advertised. Personally, maybe I just found the perfect sliders for how I play but 11 plays a great game for me, and aside from the sim issues (teams like the Panthers or Islanders for example finishing in the top 8 yearly) it really isn't bad at all.

My issues are few and nagging, lack of authentic arenas, and the presentation elements being so quick to occur that it makes the game feel "rushed" while playing. Otherwise? I like how the game plays as is.

[Mikey88]

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I don't consider a sim engine built from the ground up to work correctly (we hope) as minor. Nor the Adaptive AI IF (and its a big IF) it works as advertised. Personally, maybe I just found the perfect sliders for how I play but 11 plays a great game for me, and aside from the sim issues (teams like the Panthers or Islanders for example finishing in the top 8 yearly) it really isn't bad at all.


My issues are few and nagging, lack of authentic arenas, and the presentation elements being so quick to occur that it makes the game feel "rushed" while playing. Otherwise? I like how the game plays as is.

wow i was never able to get NHL 11 sliders just right. Care to share your settings?
**EDIT nvm i found your settings in teh slider sub forum.

[ComaFaction]

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I don't consider a sim engine built from the ground up to work correctly (we hope) as minor. Nor the Adaptive AI IF (and its a big IF) it works as advertised. Personally, maybe I just found the perfect sliders for how I play but 11 plays a great game for me, and aside from the sim issues (teams like the Panthers or Islanders for example finishing in the top 8 yearly) it really isn't bad at all.

My issues are few and nagging, lack of authentic arenas, and the presentation elements being so quick to occur that it makes the game feel "rushed" while playing. Otherwise? I like how the game plays as is.

I agree with you re: 11. I'm still enjoying it a lot. As far as those two features being wholesale changes, we'll see. I'm pumped they (finally) built a worthy sim engine, but is that really a big enough feature to sell a new game on? As far as adaptive AI, I expect them to improve the AI every year - to me that's not really much of a feature, it's an expectation. And let's be honest, there are some wonky moments in the past games that need to be addressed.

I'm sure it will be more enjoyable than '11, and I am sure the additions to the gameplay will be welcome ones. However, I still feel like maybe they have something in the works for next year that took some dev time. For a franchise that has prided itself on adding features and refining gameplay on a yearly basis, they have come up a little short this year (in my humble opinion). We'll know soon enough though!

[Hal Fowler]

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