An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

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  • Palo20
    MVP
    • Dec 2006
    • 3908

    #1

    An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

    I'm sick of getting ATHs who only have one position.

    True athletes can play more than one, that's why they're classified as such.

    Just got an ATH who can only play OLine. Why not just make him an Olineman?

    ATHs should have these types of options:

    QB/HB/WR/S
    QB/TE/LB
    HB/LB
    HB/S
    WR/CB/S
    TE/DE/LB
    OL/DL
    DE/LB
    LB/S


    Position changes are so common in real life college football, so I think this can be better represented in the game.
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  • TDenverFan
    MVP
    • Jan 2011
    • 3457

    #2
    Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

    And most athletes can play only HB/WR...

    I agree completely
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    • mavfan21
      MVP
      • Jul 2007
      • 1842

      #3
      Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

      It is pretty ridiculous. There's never a Kordell Stewart, Charles Woodson, Hines Ward, Brad Smith, James Wilder, etc. type of guy that could play several different positions if you wanted. Every season at ever school there are guys that switch from S to LB, LB to S, WR to CB, CB to WR, HB to LB, LB to HB/FB, none of this ever happens in NCAA 12.
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      • BadAssHskr
        XSX
        • Jun 2003
        • 3541

        #4
        Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

        is this something new this year?

        at what stage did you find out he could only play OLine?

        i've got an ATH on my board i hoping to land and use as a FB.....
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        • K0ZZ
          The Hard Way
          • Dec 2004
          • 3871

          #5
          Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

          Would be nice. It's annoying to recruit a big WR, see him buried on your depth chart and try moving him to TE to see he drops from a 75 to a 40. I get his blocking would be way below par, but if the guy has decent strength and his hands are solid shouldn't he at least be a decent receiving TE?

          Would also like to be able to actually move bigger power backs to full back, happens in real life but it's nearly impossible to pull off in the game thanks to the same reason as above. Could drop nearly thirty overall points and be insufficient as a starter in the position somehow.
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          • Catamount53
            Rookie
            • Jan 2007
            • 475

            #6
            Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

            Yea I made a thread about this a while ago (http://www.operationsports.com/forum...n-changes.html).

            Its pretty unrealistic that these guys can only play one position. Its not just the athletes either, its not uncommon for players to move from offense to defense and vice versa.

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            • mavfan21
              MVP
              • Jul 2007
              • 1842

              #7
              Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

              Ryan Tannehill was a very good WR for the Aggies and they switched him to QB mid-season (something the game doesn't allow) and he lit it up at QB. The reverse happened for the Longhorns, John Chiles was a QB who switched to WR.

              This can NEVER happen in the game.
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              • C the Lyte
                Left side, strong side
                • May 2009
                • 2253

                #8
                Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                You may not like to do it but the simple work-around for this is editing player stats. I feel this was one major reason why it was implemented. And, I think they are adding the ability to edit height and weight. Tremendous...
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                • SGMRock
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 991

                  #9
                  Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                  Originally posted by C the Lyte
                  You may not like to do it but the simple work-around for this is editing player stats. I feel this was one major reason why it was implemented. And, I think they are adding the ability to edit height and weight. Tremendous...

                  I totally agree. At least this year you have the option of changing the players stats where in the past you were just plain stuck with it. I'm very happy they added this ability this year for both NCAA and Madden.
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                  • ClarkNoHeart
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 58

                    #10
                    Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                    It's been like this for as long as I can remember. Athletes are pointless in this game. It's really just like a mystery player. But you can look at their skills when you're recruiting them and get a pretty good idea.

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                    • mavfan21
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1842

                      #11
                      Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                      Originally posted by C the Lyte
                      You may not like to do it but the simple work-around for this is editing player stats. I feel this was one major reason why it was implemented. And, I think they are adding the ability to edit height and weight. Tremendous...
                      I agree. I use it to do stuff like this and to help out CPU teams, it'd just be nice IF the development team put more thought into creating recruits that are more in tune with reality.
                      Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                      • The GOAT 1988
                        Rookie
                        • May 2010
                        • 39

                        #12
                        Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                        while i agree this game seriously lacks in truly representing "athletes" where players are good at multiple positions, ive had players with decent skills at multiple positions (WR/RB, TE/FB, TE/WR, DE/OLB, S/CB) and switched them. the only thing that suffers is awareness which is the biggest factor in bringing their overall down. in past versions i just let it go and didnt worry about it. however with in-season editing now i can just adjust the awareness. ive seen a couple of players i can do this with. i agree they still are usually worse at the other posistions and true athletes dont exist, but i do this to with recruits as lower star schools

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                        • K0ZZ
                          The Hard Way
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 3871

                          #13
                          Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                          I don't wanna edit recruits too much because than it feels cheap.

                          Not to mention I don't have the patience to go through and edit athletes around the NCAA to help the CPU out more. I don't personally want a huge advantage over the CPU, I don't need it.
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                            Fear The Spear
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10346

                            #14
                            Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                            Agree with all the posters....An ATH should be only be considered such if he has various skill sets
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                            • soonermagic88
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 491

                              #15
                              Re: An ATH is not really an ATH if he can only play one position

                              Well if you feel it is unfair, then here is my suggestion.
                              Say you have a WR you want to move TE. Move him the edit his stats to either what his WR overall was or maybe a couple points lower.
                              Example lets say youve got a tall, built WR but kinda slow, say 83 speed 6'4''-6'5'' 220 ish pounds.
                              I would drop his AWR maybe 5-10 points, keep his athletic attributes the same, Speed, accel, agility, strength (let those progress naturally) and then adjust his blocking and other key TE attributes accordingly till he was close to his WR overall.

                              Same with HB to FB, WR to CB etc.

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