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  • bengalboy1991
    Rookie
    • Jul 2007
    • 133

    #1

    Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

    I played with CJ two days ago. He played solid; but failed to have the explosive, pull away speed he had in last year's game. His acceleration is slightly above average. I think this should be tweeked in the next update. CJ is one of the few Game Changers in today's NFL.
  • MileHighSalute30
    Banned
    • Aug 2011
    • 248

    #2
    Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

    Originally posted by bengalboy1991
    I played with CJ two days ago. He played solid; but failed to have the explosive, pull away speed he had in last year's game. His acceleration is slightly above average. I think this should be tweeked in the next update. CJ is one of the few Game Changers in today's NFL.
    IMO, he was always over powered in Madden. You can try messing with the speed threshold to make him seem even faster.

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    • Favre4
      Rookie
      • Oct 2007
      • 300

      #3
      Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

      Have you guys played with Jamaal Charles at all yet? Is it the same story with him?

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      • damien6663
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 362

        #4
        Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

        the reason imo for this is that they give to many players 90+ speed....i feel like if they scaled back the ratings where most rb's and wr's are in the 85-89 category, and only have the really elite speed demons over 90 you would see a much greater difference in the true game breakers.

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        • billsmetalbooze
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 265

          #5
          Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

          i only just got the game but it seems like the spin move is toned down (i've read that too).

          could this be a reason speed backs aren't as deadly?

          while it's not the same, it does seem more realistic. not every run should be long one and i was breaking a couple 40-yarders a game with speed backs (as opposed to regular guys who wouldn't get those big chunks).

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          • Tyrant8RDFL
            MVP
            • Feb 2004
            • 3563

            #6
            Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

            Originally posted by billsmetalbooze
            i only just got the game but it seems like the spin move is toned down (i've read that too).

            could this be a reason speed backs aren't as deadly?

            while it's not the same, it does seem more realistic. not every run should be long one and i was breaking a couple 40-yarders a game with speed backs (as opposed to regular guys who wouldn't get those big chunks).
            The spin move has to be used with the right timing to be effective. I also found it to be more effective when playing in a faster game speed setting.
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            • Rouchicus
              Rookie
              • Jan 2010
              • 378

              #7
              Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

              Originally posted by Favre4
              Have you guys played with Jamaal Charles at all yet? Is it the same story with him?

              I use the Chiefs almost exclusively and it doesn't feel like I'm breaking open near as many big runs with him as I did last year. I actually kind of like it though. I felt like how good Charles was last year made me a little lazy on the sticks because I knew that his speed would get me out of just about any situation.

              With Charles and Johnson being roughly the same player in Madden, I'm guessing it's about the same.
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              • WildFan22
                Pro
                • May 2009
                • 932

                #8
                Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                I don't see any players break away from the pack. Speed is not really a factor and running back especially are prone to being caught from behind.

                Last night I had defenders chase me down from behind with J. Charles, Adrian Peterson, and Percy Harvin.

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                • Rouchicus
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 378

                  #9
                  Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                  I did have a laughable situation last night where I was playing against the Titans and Johnson had gotten to the second level of the defense and made one little cut by my FS only to get caught from behind by Tyson Jackson. At the time I was like then I was like
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                  • Tyrant8RDFL
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3563

                    #10
                    Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                    Originally posted by WildFan22
                    I don't see any players break away from the pack. Speed is not really a factor and running back especially are prone to being caught from behind.

                    Last night I had defenders chase me down from behind with J. Charles, Adrian Peterson, and Percy Harvin.
                    Here is a video of J.Best going all the way. Gamespeed on normal and threshold at 85.

                    <iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PJtQ3BUUNXY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                    Backs can go all the way. Speed is a factor, maybe your guys were fatigue and couldnt maintain a top speed at the time.

                    Also with threshold at 85 means the speed seperation is shorter between players, now if your threshold is at a lower setting you will see a seperation sooner.
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                    • MileHighSalute30
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 248

                      #11
                      Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                      I thought threshold just made the difference between speed ratings bigger? So a 96 speed guy was more noticeably faster than an 86 guy?

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                      • JRT2006
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 389

                        #12
                        Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                        Speed threshold, makes the difference in speed bigger and smaller. If you set the threshold high, say 100, a 95 spd receiver could run a streak route with an 88 spd corner right on his tail. as you lower the threshold it would increase that separation, drop it to 50 and the 96 spd receiver maybe have a 5 step lead on the corner after running about 20 yards, drop it even lower and that step lead would increase

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                        • mojo6911
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 359

                          #13
                          Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                          I play exclusively online and find that guys like McFadden, Felix Jones, CJ2k, Charles, etc don't seem to be much faster than the guys on defense. I am routinely caught from behind by 70-80 speed LBs and DTs.

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                          • Alter Eg0
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 71

                            #14
                            Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                            Yea, Casey Matthews chased me down with no problem I had Roy Helu 93spd. Tuning the game works but what about people that play online? They have to figure out a button to juke. The juke move button is useless.

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                            • Brando70
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 646

                              #15
                              Re: Chris Johnson is No Longer a Game Changer

                              While it may seem unrealistic to get caught from behind by slower players, you have to keep in mind that runs over 40 yards are a rare occurrence for most backs.

                              In 2010, if I counted correctly from the stats on NFL.com, there were 66 runs of 40 or more yards. However, only 13 players had more than one, meaning that for 53 of those players, it was a once-in-a-season event. There are a few receivers, one QB (Shaun Hill), and surprisingly one punter in that group, so that means it's that much rarer for RBs

                              Of the 13 who had more than one 40-yard rush, seven did it twice, only three managed it three times, two did it four times (Johnson and McFadden), and just one did it five times (McCoy).

                              Even with 20+ yard runs, the top 10 ranged between nine and 14, with McFadden at the top. Johnson had 13, and keep in mind that includes the 40 yard runs. So realistically, even for the top backs, you would expect to see less than one 20+yard run per game on average, and most backs will average one per two games or less during a season.

                              That doesn't necessarily mean the default threshold is correct, but in terms of big-play realism for RBs, big runs don't really happen that often. Even for the biggest home-run threats, they might average a 20+ run once ever 20-25 carries.

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