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  • Sandman42
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    • Aug 2004
    • 15186

    #1

    UFC 141 - Lesnar vs. Overeem - Dec. 30th

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  • goh
    Banned
    • Aug 2003
    • 20755

    #2
    Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

    They could air the best of Jon Fitch for the other 4 fights and I'd still buy this one.

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    • aholbert32
      (aka Alberto)
      • Jul 2002
      • 33106

      #3
      Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

      Worst matchup possible for Brock. He can't take a punch and they put him in with the most dangerous HW striker in MMA. Should have given Mir/Overeem and Brock Big Nog.

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      • redsrule
        All Star
        • Apr 2010
        • 9396

        #4
        Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

        Overeem can't take a punch either though. Steroids don't make your chin get better. I think Brock can win this, if he gets it to the ground. Obviously on the feet he is screwed.
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        • VanCitySportsGuy
          NYG_Meth
          • Feb 2003
          • 9351

          #5
          Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

          Overeem was offered a title shot for his first UFC Fight but he didn't want to wait too long so he's going to fight Lesnar.

          I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC books Mir on the same card just in case Lesnar isn't healthy.

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          • Sandman42
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2004
            • 15186

            #6
            Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

            Just glad that we didn't get Lesnar/Mir 3. There's no way Brock's going to get easy competition from here on out. White, Fertitta, and Joe Silva all realize he has a limited number of fights left, so he's going to get all the big names; no Kongo's or Rothwell's.

            If I can do a little speculation, this is how I see HW playing out the next 6 months.

            Cain vs. Dos Santos for title.
            Brock vs. Overeem; winner gets title shot.
            Mir vs. Nogueira in Japan; winner fights Cain/Dos Santos loser, loser fights Lesnar/Overeem loser.
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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
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              #7
              Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

              Originally posted by Sandman42
              Just glad that we didn't get Lesnar/Mir 3. There's no way Brock's going to get easy competition from here on out. White, Fertitta, and Joe Silva all realize he has a limited number of fights left, so he's going to get all the big names; no Kongo's or Rothwell's.

              If I can do a little speculation, this is how I see HW playing out the next 6 months.

              Cain vs. Dos Santos for title.
              Brock vs. Overeem; winner gets title shot.
              Mir vs. Nogueira in Japan; winner fights Cain/Dos Santos loser, loser fights Lesnar/Overeem loser.
              You are right regarding Brock, although I think he should be allowed at least 1 warmup fight. It's not like Brock is a 10-year vet. of the sport; he was already behind the curve when he got into the sport but his athleticism and power were enough to get him past his first 4 fights.

              Missing all that time from training due to his health issues is tough for Brock, especially since the guys he is fighting now are bigger, stronger and faster than the Mir's, Couture's (love Randy, but he was way too small to hang with Brock) and Herrings of the world.

              It will be an interesting fight and Brock will certainly bring the PPV numbers up for the UFC.
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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #8
                Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                Originally posted by Sandman42
                Just glad that we didn't get Lesnar/Mir 3. There's no way Brock's going to get easy competition from here on out. White, Fertitta, and Joe Silva all realize he has a limited number of fights left, so he's going to get all the big names; no Kongo's or Rothwell's.

                If I can do a little speculation, this is how I see HW playing out the next 6 months.

                Cain vs. Dos Santos for title.
                Brock vs. Overeem; winner gets title shot.
                Mir vs. Nogueira in Japan; winner fights Cain/Dos Santos loser, loser fights Lesnar/Overeem loser.
                I see your point but shouldn't they try to protect their biggest draw a little. The guy needs experience in taking punches and you put him against Overeem? If he loses, he is no longer a million ppv draw. Plus the guy is coming off surgery. Give him Nog or Rothwell and build him up a little.

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                • fpac
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3830

                  #9
                  Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                  Damn, a year off for Brock and he gets Overeem? I don't see this ending well for Brock.

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                  • GiantYankee
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 717

                    #10
                    Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                    Originally posted by goh
                    They could air the best of Jon Fitch for the other 4 fights and I'd still buy this one.
                    LMAO!

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    Worst matchup possible for Brock. He can't take a punch and they put him in with the most dangerous HW striker in MMA. Should have given Mir/Overeem and Brock Big Nog.
                    Agree 100%. I would have been okay with Brock getting a "warmup" fight. Unless Brock gets an early takedown it's the Reem by TKO.
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                    • JerseySuave4
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 5152

                      #11
                      Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                      as others said i dont like this matchup for Brock. I wish he's get out of his comfort zone and go to some other camps to expand his game more and develop into a better fighter because he doesnt seem to get that much better from fight to fight. Both guys dont have the strongest chin so i see this one ending in the 1st round.

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                      • CaptainZombie
                        Brains
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 37851

                        #12
                        Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        Worst matchup possible for Brock. He can't take a punch and they put him in with the most dangerous HW striker in MMA. Should have given Mir/Overeem and Brock Big Nog.
                        I agree with you and DJ, they should have given Lesnar one warmup fight before Overeem. I'm not talking about a tomato can either, but someone he can hang with to get back into fighting. If this fight does happen, it should be rather interesting to see how Lesnar can defend against Overeems punches.
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                        • allBthere
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 5847

                          #13
                          Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                          Overeem is highly overrated, and it's not his punches brock should fear, it's thai clinch knee's - THAT is what could knock him out. Overeem is not the best puncher imo, and like others have said, his chin is suspect, going years back into K-1 where I've seen him get TKO'd on some pretty mediocre punches. I also disagree about Brock's CHIN, it's not weak, he doesn't get obliterated and go all rag doll, it's more like he doesn't like taking shots and has a hard time dealing with it. That's a big difference between the current version of Liddell that just foldes immediately when his chin is touched.

                          I think Brock CAN and should win this one, unless he gets put in the plum - than you can all say goodnight in unison lol.
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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #14
                            Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                            However you want to characterize Brock's chin is fine with me, but it's painfully apparent that his stand up defense is awful. There's no way around it, he turtles up when he takes punches, and not even the power shots either. It's like he goes into full panic mode.

                            Don't get me wrong I have always wanted to see this match up, but not like this. Honestly if Brock wins, I will finally agree with those who keep calling Overeem overrated. There's no way Reem should lose this fight, IMO.

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                            • Noles4ever
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1675

                              #15
                              Re: Lesnar vs. Overeem signed for Dec. 30th

                              Big Lesnar fan, but this is a TERRIBLE fight for him. I could see him getting KO'd quickly.

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