Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

[Alextricity]

To be honest, it's almost a deal-breaker for me, and it's making me think twice. I heard you can earn Pucks in '12 based on what you did in HUT in '11, but it's a pretty big bummer... BUT. I'm still tempted to get it. Almost hockey season again. SO. CLOSE...

[plaidchuck]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

Hey look at it this way, everyone who paid $50+ to max their team out will have to waste their money again.. if that included you then sorry..

[jb1]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

EA is a money making machine and Ultimate Team has been hugely successful for them. There are people out there who will drop $50+ on HUT within the first few hours without even thinking twice about it.

There were people on the FUT forums last year admitting to spending huge sums of money, teams and players from FUT sell for big money on Ebay aswell and as long as this is the case there is no way EA will let people keep their teams from the previous year as they know there will always be people out there who open their wallets at the start of a new version. You throw in the "promos" and people will throw even more silly money at it as the year goes on.

Whoever came up with Ultimate Team must be a God within EA HQ.

[adayinthelife]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

Uh... Yeah... Conspiracy theories aside, you've never been able to carry a franchise forward to the next game in a series in ANY console sports game, so I don't know why this would be expected or any kind of "deal breaker" at all.

[Alextricity]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

EA is a money making machine and Ultimate Team has been hugely successful for them. There are people out there who will drop $50+ on HUT within the first few hours without even thinking twice about it.

There were people on the FUT forums last year admitting to spending huge sums of money, teams and players from FUT sell for big money on Ebay aswell and as long as this is the case there is no way EA will let people keep their teams from the previous year as they know there will always be people out there who open their wallets at the start of a new version. You throw in the "promos" and people will throw even more silly money at it as the year goes on.

Whoever came up with Ultimate Team must be a God within EA HQ.

I don't even understand this. At all. I remember I got a Luongo MAXED OUT card on auction - somehow - and he had about a .650 save percentage when I played him. I find a 99 overall goalie is as good as one that's a 75.

I also find it comical people spend that much money on HUT. Where's the fun? The challenge of earning cards? "Going on up?" Maybe it's just me. I can see buying a pack or two so you have SOMEONE to lead your team, but... meh.

[merchant1874]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

To me HUT is essentially a trading card game.. Each season is a new one so there is a new set of cards each year.

Why would you expect to carry a collection over to new seasons? it makes sense to start everyone from scratch. You wouldnt do it with real trading cards would you?

do you think you should keep all your battlefield or COD stats and perks for new games too?

[CigarCityBandit]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

It is strange...I always felt the fun was getting better and better, step by step. "The Journey" so to speak is what is so gratifying. And then when ur team is strong feeling as though you actually built something worthwhile.
Every faceoff won, every penalty killed, every goal scored, every game played had even more meaning. You had something "Invested" in your team besides actual MONEY. You EARNED it.

[Ceteris Paribus]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

It is strange...I always felt the fun was getting better and better, step by step. "The Journey" so to speak is what is so gratifying. And then when ur team is strong feeling as though you actually built something worthwhile.
Every faceoff won, every penalty killed, every goal scored, every game played had even more meaning. You had something "Invested" in your team besides actual MONEY. You EARNED it.

It is "The Journey" so to speak. You earned your NHL 11 HUT team. Now you get to go on a journey are do it again, because building is more fun that sitting on top of the hill.

[der juicen]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

i spent money and i dont care that i am going to lose my team

[Alextricity]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

It is "The Journey" so to speak. You earned your NHL 11 HUT team. Now you get to go on a journey are do it again, because building is more fun that sitting on top of the hill.

Looking at it this way, it makes sense.

I do find it almost comical that people spend money to have a team that they know will be dominant. But hey, to each their own.

[I3RIS3H]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

Never played HUT last year so this might be a n00b question.

Can you make a dominate team without spending money?

[Ceteris Paribus]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

Looking at it this way, it makes sense.

I do find it almost comical that people spend money to have a team that they know will be dominant. But hey, to each their own.

I'm with you. I think HUT is a cool enough mode that I would pay a monthly fee to play it as a strategic card game, forcing me to earn my packs.

But the fact that you can pay your way to as good of a team as you want kind of ruins it. For one, it's not fun playing or comparing my team to guys that dropped $50. I've seen reports of guys spending a grand on their team. (Yeah, I'm one of those guys that drops when I see you perfect team pop up in random play.)

But it also puts in EA in a position to game the system. They have to make it just enough of a grind to get people to spend money instead of just earning pucks. In doing so, it loses some of its strategic interest. It's why, as much as I love the mode, I didn't stick with it.

But it does seem like they have made some interesting changes that might give it more life for me this year. But I still won't spend money on it, because it defeats the purpose. Thankfully, EA can count on a bunch of others to spend way more than moist of us realize on this mode.

[Ceteris Paribus]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

Never played HUT last year so this might be a n00b question.

Can you make a dominate team without spending money?

I really don't think so. You would have to be pretty dominant with your base team in order to keep a steady stream of pucks that you need to acquire new players, contract cards for you current players, as well as all the other training and injury cards you use to keep you team up.

I can tell you that I definitely could not. I ran the numbers, and there just was not a good way to do it. It's complicated, because it is unclear how many pucks are invested in your team at any given moment.

But I think you can make a good team that is fun to play with. I think that the process of filling holes and trying to cover your weak spots is an interesting strategic element. While it is nothing like running a real team, their is a very in-depth strategy for creating teams and improving them.

The one area you might really be able to take advantage of is the auction house. Because there are guys out there spending money, there is an inflated market for cards. So sometimes it might pay to take a really good card you get and sell it rather than use it.

But this inflated market also makes it hard to buy what you need. To really improve your team, your needs become increasingly more specific as your team improves. There are some market timing strategies you can use to maximize your profit and minimize your cost.

So to really build up a team, it takes a lot of work in different areas. And it i all purposely balanced to encourage you to just drop some money on a team. I guarantee you they have sophisticated formulas for how they allocate pucks and price packs of cards. there may be a weakness to exploit, but it ends up taking time from playing hockey and arranging your team.

But if your goals are more realistic, I think you can have a blast playing this game with teams of NHL, minor league, and European players strategically used to created 80-85 rated teams.

[jb1]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

Never played HUT last year so this might be a n00b question.

Can you make a dominate team without spending money?

As said above it's not easy to build a dominate team in HUT without spending any real money but in my opinion it can be done. I played last year for a couple of months and without spending any money accumalated over 200k in pucks by mainly using the auction house which built me a very good team, the only players I couldn't get were Crosby and Ovechkin. I stopped playing simply because I didn't enjoy the online play but I've decided to give it a go again this year. I've invested the 22k pucks I got for returning into the auction house looking for players I can sell for a profit and my team is coming along nicely.

The key is to keep your trade pile as full as you can so pucks are always coming in. It's not as much as a slog as it sounds either, if I play for a few hours on the evening or a few more at the weekend i'll just keep checking the market in between games and also make use of the promos as a lot of good players will hit the market at knockdown prices.

The one thing that slightly hinders the plan in HUT is that players have career lengths meaning you have to keep on replacing your players if you want to keep a dominate team.

Another reason why I gave up on HUT last year was that I started playing FUT and didn't have the time to play both. I didn't spend any money on FUT either and I built a dominating team there worth over 1.8m coins. Again mainly by using the auction house. So it can be done but it does require a good amount of time to both learn the market and then spend time scouring the market.

[tabulaRasa]

Re: Inability to transfer HUT from '11 to '12 is extremely disappointing.

I played HUT alot in NHL11, I love it, but it was funny when the game had been out for almost a year I had an awesome team (ultimate), but people dropped and called my team a bought team, funny...
It´s no problem getting a good team, one way is to buy cheap cards from people who don´t know the lesser leagues and then sell them of at a higher price. Like last years Nugent-hopkins, Pirjarvi, etc.
Play alot helps too, you earn about 500 per game, play offline until you get a decent lineup or play online good and beat bought teams or bad players. I played against everyone. Players tend to be more expensive at first to, like last year good players in the NHL were sold for 4000-6000, then after 2-3 months it went down to 2000-3000.