Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

[bruinsftw2k]

I am getting a little tired of EAs Imfamous come back AI.
This happens a lot AGAIN in NHL 12. I just played a game where I was up 4-2 with 10 mins to go in the 3rd and the CPU scores 4 straight goals on 6 shots when before Thomas (goalie) saved 30 of 32 shots before the come back AI kicks in.

I dont mind if they are legit goals where they beat my goalie cleanly but its easy saves where the goalie should have had them and he was making tougher saves than that in the 2nd period.

Not to mention the computer seems to never miss a pass when this come back AI kicks in.

[jr86]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

And there was me thinking we could go a whole 2 weeks before threads like this were started.

Sadly Not.......

[kerosene31]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

Did you set your pressure to defend lead or at least conservative? Did you change your forecheck to be the conservative 1-2-2? Did you try to defend the lead or just keep attacking?

I've been able to defend leads, but you have to change your attack and be a lot more conservative. If the other team changes to all out attack and you don't counter, they are going to score on you.

[Segagendude]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

They won't fix it if they don't believe it exists.

[dxdude2004]

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Sorry to disappoint the OP, but there is no such thing.

Trust me, I used to think that there was some sort of "comeback AI" all the time. But I realized it's all about how YOU play the game. If you're still trying to be aggressive when you're up 5-0, expect to get burned at least a few times.

[Rangers24Cally]

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http://www.operationsports.com/forum...r-sliders.html

those are nystyle's all star sliders. i have been using them since he posted them and have not had the cpu comeback at all. games have been fair.

[nystyle]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...r-sliders.html

those are nystyle's all star sliders. i have been using them since he posted them and have not had the cpu comeback at all. games have been fair.

thanks for the endorsement :-). anyways my suggestion to the TC is to not lighten up on D late in games. the cpu really works their butts off to tie games and go ahead. bring an extra offensive player back on D and clear out the garbage in front of the net (a nod to coach bombay right there). cpu teams really gear up for rebounds late which also leads to goalies being screened and "easy" saves turn in to goals simply that the goalie couldnt see.

I am not saying this is 100% the problem, but when i first started playing this and blowing leads late I was like "wow, ok not like nhl 11 at all anymore. cpu teams will make you play the full 60 (or 20, 15, 10, etc) minutes of a game to earn W."

[bruinsftw2k]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

Sorry to disappoint the OP, but there is no such thing.

Trust me, I used to think that there was some sort of "comeback AI" all the time. But I realized it's all about how YOU play the game. If you're still trying to be aggressive when you're up 5-0, expect to get burned at least a few times.

There is a such thing and its sad EA wont admit it, maybe they cannot find it. But it is there. it does not happen all the time but it does happen a good number of the time. You cant tell me when I am winning 4-2 in the 3rd and my goalie cant save a shot that a pee wee goal could save there is not some short of cheap AI going on to let the CPU catch up.

Because that same goalie that let in a few soft goalies to give up the lead was standing on his head when I was tied or behind in the 1st and 2nd periods with shots he had no chance on but just happened to get lucky and save them.

I am not trying to play aggressive, but when the CPU takes 5 shots and scores on 3 of them and they are all soft goals something shady is going on. Because once the CPU gets ahead that same goalie starts making those saves again and the crazy ones as well.

Like I said I dont care if the CPU comes back because of something I did wrong, but when the CPU takes a normal shot on goal that should be saved and it just happens to go in, that is not fair beause there is nothing you can do to prevent that.

[jr86]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...light=comeback

[bruinsftw2k]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...light=comeback

They can claim all they want its not there but it is. How long did it take the Devs to admit the aggression slider in 09 or 10 didn't do anything?

There are tons of examples of come back AI from last years game and we already are seeing it in this years game as well.

That is why scrub players can fly around the ice and play like Crosby and can score at will in the 3rd period on shots the goalie was making in the first two periods right?

Its one thing if the CPU starts getting a ton more shots on goalie when trailing late in the 3rd its another for 75% of their shots to be goals esp when most of those goals are cream puff goals

[jb1]

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Sorry but i'm not seeing this either, all i'm seeing is the CPU changing their strategies. I've conceded late goals, even some soft late goals but they are mainly my own doing in some way and i've never felt cheated about it.

[kerosene31]

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That is why scrub players can fly around the ice and play like Crosby and can score at will in the 3rd period on shots the goalie was making in the first two periods right?

Why are you letting them shoot on your goalie when you are up 2 goals? When up by 2, send only 1 guy in on the attack and trap the CPU. You will easily bog them down in the zone. Instead I bet you haven't changed your coaching strategy and are still sending 3 forwards to get the 5th goal and leaving yourself wide open.

The game rewards you for being smart and punishes you for making mistakes. Call that whatever you want, but you have to adjust.

I just had a great game where I was trading goals back and forth with the CPU and they ended up getting the late one for the win.

Another thing is what league are you in? I notice there is a bigger gap between NHL and lower level teams (the lower level teams are way more prone to mistakes).

[Ceteris Paribus]

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Sorry, but you are wrong. There is no comeback logic, except for the increased aggression by the CPU late in the game, which is what there should be.

I'm sorry, but there is no way I completed a season last year, winning the division and getting into the second round of the playoffs if the CPU was cheating. But it did take learning how to play late in the game.

You say it is cheap, but we all know what happens. When those late goals come in, it feels like a giant stab in the gut. No goal feels right. If it is a wide open net, you think the CPU slowed your goalie down. If it is a slapshot from the point, it's bogus. If the CPU knocks in a garbage goal, it's just too weak.

Maturity is shaking it off and moving forward.

Are you adjusting your your defense to concentrate on the point or collapsing, based on where the CPU is trying to shoot from? Do you have your breakout set to aggressive, and your forwards don't stay home when the puck is loose?

I understand how people get to this point. The beauty of the NHL is how emotional every goal can feel. Scoring goal is the biggest rush in sports video games. But giving them up can hurt just as bad. You will enjoy the game more if you can keep this in mind and not overreact when you lose.

[RealmK]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

Oh good, another year, another The AI cheats thread. /facepalm

[Ceteris Paribus]

Re: Will EA ever get rid of the cheap come back AI

Oh good, another year, another The AI cheats thread. /facepalm

On the plus side, it does seem like the comeback codes kids are in the minority. So maybe the information is getting through to most.