Come from behind logic

[mur10]

DEos anyone notice large amount of scoring by cpu in the fourth qtr.and frequent scoring by team that is behind?

[roadman]

Re: Come from behind logic

I notice it about the equivalent of any NFL team in the 4th quarter trying to get back in the game.

[T5063]

Re: Come from behind logic

I noticed this happens a lot on All-Madden. Any QB all of a sudden become Tom Brady and the RBs get trucking and break-tackle ratings of about 1000.

It really pissed me off so I switched back down to All-Pro and jacked up the CPU sliders so I got the All-Madden challenge without the All-Madden cheese.

It still happens sometimes but its to be expected since it happens in real life.I actually played a game last week (texans vs bills) I was leading 20-13 and the Bills go the ball with about 2:30 left in the game. I was expecting them to cheese their way to a TD and the lead but they ended up trowing an INT on their first play and I ran the clock out.

[CatMan72]

Re: Come from behind logic

EA denies it, but there is most definitely a "keep it close" algorithm build into the game (which I don't necessarily have a problem with).

[Cardot]

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This is always a touchy topic. So I won't play the catch up card, But I do believe that EA jacks up the offense in the 4th quarter of football games. I have been on both sides of the ball with this. As much as the CPU has done it to me, I have been able to complete passes into coverage that have been shut down for 3 1/2 quarters....feels kind of cheesy.

[PGaither84]

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I wish fatigue played a more important role in Madden. In my experience, it is more like a meeter that depletes, and when it gets to a certain point, the player is just substituted out. They have cool little animations to show the player is tired when they line up at the LOS and all... but I don't really see/feel like the players are really playing fatigued. I could understand if the defense was really drained... but that just isn't the case.

I personally don't believe in the "come from behind" AI argument. I don't remember the last time I blew a two score lead against the computer. I also don't tend to force passes, so if I am coming back in the 4th, one of the things I notice is the AI play calling. FOr years in Madden the game would love to call Engage 8. Just snap the ball, notice the defense is sending the house and complete a wide open pass for a HUGE gain. If you shake the FS, or break his tackle, you will likely score. Because of stuff like that , I tended to keep the rewind feature from 09 on and set it to infinite. I would rewind stupid AI play calls and give the computer do-overs.

* I would also use the rewind when the computer wanted dumps the ball out to the flats and the receiver catches it and steps out of bounds for no gain, or even a loss. I find the A to be really bad at football, so I try to give it a second chance in order to keep games interesting.

[bichettehappens]

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I notice it about the equivalent of any NFL team in the 4th quarter trying to get back in the game.

I agree with this. Garbage time TDs happen. I don't think I've had any full comebacks but a couple times it's been where I hold them to a field goal most of the game, then they get a TD late in the game. I think that's more a product of conservative playcalling leaving more holes for the passing game to matriculate

[xblake16x]

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Personally I think they have something, instead of come from behind, its called dumb from behind. I have to lay off the gas most of the time which is dumb. All they do is run streaks... Almost nothing else

[oneamongthefence]

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I think the playcalling is more desperate and as users we are used to AI pedestrian playcalls the other 90 percent of the game.

[Midgeotto]

Re: Come from behind logic

I haven't noticed anything really out of the ordinary. If there is some comeback logic then at least it's keeping the games interesting. I have noticed in the past that the cpu managed to rally back due to my own mistakes of falling into auto-mode after building a pretty solid lead early in the game.

[ajb3313]

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I've never noticed. If anything, I've always thought -- this year is no exception -- that there wasn't any come from behind logic at all. I see teams run it less, but that's about it. They still throw little four and five yard underneath routes and take their good old time getting to the line (or run one random no huddle play, then stop).

I especially don't see any improved efficiency in the fourth quarter. In fact, I've always felt like the game was automatically set to make one halftime adjustment: stop making plays. I can't tell you how many times I've faced a team that's done something exceptionally all throughout the first half, only to stop doing it in the second half and then get blown out.

[ThePebble19]

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I haven't thoroughly tested this, but I have played against Oakland a few times, and Jason Campbell doesn't run with the ball for 98% of the game, and then in the last 5 minutes, he takes off every other play. It is almost to a rythm that I can gameplan for it. They will run a play, then go no huddle, they will snap the ball and he drops back and immediately looks to scramble.

Weird.

[MrCheese]

Re: Come from behind logic

that's what she said

[Franchise408]

Re: Come from behind logic

There is definitely some kind of "come from behind" logic.

If the CPU gets the ball with sub 2:00 to go, it doesn't matter how much time is left, they will score.

The CPU will consistently drive 80 yards distances in a span of 10-30 seconds. It happens like clockwork.

[KBLover]

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I wish fatigue played a more important role in Madden. In my experience, it is more like a meeter that depletes, and when it gets to a certain point, the player is just substituted out. They have cool little animations to show the player is tired when they line up at the LOS and all... but I don't really see/feel like the players are really playing fatigued. I could understand if the defense was really drained... but that just isn't the case.

I've often wondered about this - the fatigue penalty to ability. It's hard to tell like you said.

Seems mostly for how many plays they get and injury chances.