Anyone think it's weird that Dallas Clark has a higher speed rating then Reggie Wayne? Just noticed this and thought it was funny. Does EA and Donny Moore really think Reggie would lose in a foot race on the field to Dallas?
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
Lol.
They do it to boost ratings.
That's why everything is so off.
Look at like the jerry rice cards on ultimate team.
96 speed i believe it says.
The guy ran a 4.7 coming into the nfl. His speed was his big knock.
Terrelle Pryor runs a 4.34 i believe? and his speed rating is only a 90
Ratings are all messed up just to get boosted overalls.*AKA NFC3PO on the Madden Modding Discord* -
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I agree, and how is Vernon Davis only a 90 in speed? dude ran a 4.38 at the combine... his speed should be around 94-95...Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
That's a terrible arguement on their count. Speed should be comparable universally which "in-game" it is. Reggie Wayne is by no means a burner but there are far too many receivers slower than TE's, something is wrong and has been wrong.Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
What are the acceleration ratings? They should be far more relevant to 40 times.Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
EA loves, and is afraid of speed in their game.
One of the things that is very hard to recreate is game speed. As someone else said, Jerry rice wasn't known as a burner, but he had had quick feet and a break away burst. He was never caught from behind, and as he said, he "ran scared."
40 time is not the end-all/be-all of speed. Acceleration plays a part as well. I believe they talked about this on NBC with Usain Bolt and how he does not have a great 40 time because he build up to his top speed a little slower, but his overall top speed is very high. So, for example, and I'm just making up these numbers, he might have 105 speed in Madden, but only 92 acceleration.
When I say that EA is afraid of speed, I am referring to how in the past they have said they don't really like it when people can take a very fast player who hasn't proved himself on the playing field and dominate with him in Madden. A lot of this has to do with awareness though. With user control, the player on the field is only as good as the user, and in the hands of a talented user with a "god cam" to see the action from, that player can play at an All-Pro/Hall of fame level. For example, ever since Madden 07 I have been tearing people apart with Vernon Davis. Though to be fair, Davis isn't used very much by the 49ers. Alex Smith tends to forget he is on the field. [until last week]Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
Does it seem to anyone else that the madden devs like to try to "fix" fakeness with more fakeness. An example would be that to make up for the bad defense in years past they decide to give the defenders ridiculous advantages this year. Just something I always thought madden had a problem with.Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
In practice mode with no D in the game I put Reggie and Dallas on go routes, Reggie took off quicker, but you could see ever so slightly that Dallas was catching up, and if there was a longer field, he would have passed him. I know this is kind of a stupid thing to complain about, but a 6 ft 3 in 250lb Dallas Clark should not outrun a 6 ft 198lb Reggie Wayne. Reggie is less than 12 months older than Dallas, so I still don't see how EA can put such a crazy stat in the game.
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
Its donny moore! He gets everything wrong!"Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
I thought speed ratings in this game were absolute, meaning that a player with 75 speed, for example, covers the same amount of feet per second no matter what position he plays.
Has EA come out and said that speed ratings are relative to one's position? That would be a weird way to do it, I'd think, and hard to calibrate.Comment
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
They are not relative to position. Whoever said that is wrong. Donny moore was asked about this very topic one time(why 40 times and speed don't match up) and I believe he said that some guys have faster game speed than their 40 times. So apparently Donny Moore thinks Dallas Clark's game speed is faster than Reggie Wayne's. I really wish they would get rid of the one guy doing ratings thing. The fact that he can set ratings to whatever he wants with no checks or balances doesn't make sense to me. I know he can't see and read up on every player that plays, so I'm sure he's just taking guesses on guys. Guys like Denarious Moore who many called the best WR on the Raiders during preseason and minicamp and, from the looks early in the season, he still is. Yet he has pedestrian ratings. That's why we need a ratings group or committee or something other than just Donny Moore taking guesses on players.PSN - Splff3000
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Re: Dallas Clark is faster than Reggie Wayne?
I think the biggest problem is that EA, with god amounts of cash still can't find a way to implement accurate scouting data into their ratings. I have Clark at 78 SPD (above average for a TE) and 85 ACC (near the top amongst all TE's). I have Wayne at 87 SPD (above average for a WR) and 89 ACC (among the best at WR) in my ratings.
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