How is this a catch and fumble?

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  • LivingLegend
    The Living Legend
    • Aug 2010
    • 583

    #1

    How is this a catch and fumble?

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    The ball clearly gets stripped before he maintains possession yet it's ruled a fumble. I challenged and of course it was upheld. I really think there needs to be some tweaking done to the challenge system, it's far too vanilla for my taste. You should be given multiple options on what you can/can't challenge depending on the play in question. You should be able to review the replay too, that's how most coaches know if it's worth it to challenge or not. Yet, if you view the replay in the game you aren't allowed to challenge.
    Last edited by LivingLegend; 10-16-2011, 10:18 PM.
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  • BGarrett7
    All Star
    • Jul 2003
    • 5890

    #2
    Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

    I would have to disagree and say there was definitely a split-second where the ball was pressed against his body and he had possession. If the call on the field was a catch, the replay has to show it wasn't, something it doesn't do.

    I say catch, fumble.

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    • PaperBoyx703
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 1591

      #3
      Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

      Originally posted by BGarrett7
      I would have to disagree and say there was definitely a split-second where the ball was pressed against his body and he had possession. If the call on the field was a catch, the replay has to show it wasn't, something it doesn't do.

      I say catch, fumble.
      Real football that's an incomplete, you cant establish possession or make a "football move" in a "split second". So in reality that's an incomplete but in EA virtual "reality" it registered that unrealistic quick catch&tackle animation as the receiver having possession when in real life no ref in their right mind would call that a completion happened to quick to be a possession. Meaning he never moved from catching motion to a progressive/advance motion.

      Incomplete pass.Technically speaking.
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      • BGarrett7
        All Star
        • Jul 2003
        • 5890

        #4
        Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

        But, again... This isn't real life; it's a video game.

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        • LivingLegend
          The Living Legend
          • Aug 2010
          • 583

          #5
          Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

          Originally posted by BGarrett7
          But, again... This isn't real life; it's a video game.
          True, but something like this could be fixed for the sake of realism. Why it hasn't yet it is beyond me.

          Really my gripe is that the challenge system is, meh at best.
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          • iBalllikelasik
            Rookie
            • May 2010
            • 28

            #6
            Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

            Originally posted by LivingLegend
            True, but something like this could be fixed for the sake of realism. Why it hasn't yet it is beyond me.

            Really my gripe is that the challenge system is, meh at best.
            I see your frustration, but at the :04/:05 mark it looks like it's a legit fumble.
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            • BraveHeart
              Pro
              • Feb 2009
              • 659

              #7
              Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

              Well, it's not like they get all the calls right in RL, do they?:o


              I actually like this about the game, makes it more...."human", knowing the refs sometimes mess up (just like in RL).

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              • TDenverFan
                MVP
                • Jan 2011
                • 3457

                #8
                Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

                It does look like he had possession... I can't see his feet but if they were on the ground I could see it being a catch from a Ref's viewpoint.
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                • steelersfan77
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 483

                  #9
                  Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

                  Incompletion. IMO the player didn't tuck the ball away at all and make a football move. Then again this is just a video game.

                  The challenge system in this game is garbage. Take it for what it's worth.

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                  • kcirdor
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 17

                    #10
                    Re: How is this a catch and fumble?

                    Should be incomplete.. I had the same thing happen to me the other day in online dynasty on the final drive of the game. Bah well..

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