User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

[ttech96]

I thought the spirit of this OD was to be more sim than cheese.

Nanoblitzing: Nanoblitzing is one of the biggest exploits/cheese against an offensive line that is controlled by AI.

Aggressive Strip Ball: The efficacy of this is way too high. It used to be in previous NCAA games that you would get face-mask penalties for doing this every single play. To counter this you have to use conservative running which means few broken tackles and few yards. You couple this with nano blitzing and you get an unstoppable defense and a neutered offense. And the last ingredient...?

Chew Clock On all-game: We are here to have fun and play a full game of football. This option makes it incredibly non-sim and unsportsmanlike if used all game. Using this tactic in combination with aggressive strip ball and nano blitzing makes it even less likely that your opponent can even compete.

His DE had 7 sacks in the first half, for god's sake. It's not as if he had a godly RE either. His 88 OVR RE was lined up against my 89 OVR LT. Sliding protection and putting a TE on the side of the formation didn't help either.

I'm here to have fun competing with other members of the OS community. This sort of play, for me, sucks the fun out of the game. It shouldn't come down to who is more unsportsmanlike and cheeses with greater fervor. If that becomes the case we'll have the QB/HB walking for a touchdown each drive.

I have explained that everything my friend and fellow OD coach has issues with are legal in the OD but maybe the other user needs to use tact when using some of the tactics. I am at a loss for what to tell Brutal.

[UKwannabe]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

Well, other than the nano blitzing(which I question) the whole post is nonsense from a sore loser. And unless the opponent was using the shake blitz or shifting his linebackers constantly pre snap than the blitzing is legit too.

Tell him, "Im sorry you feel this way, after investigation I found nothing wrong or unsim with how the user plays. Your free to leave this fictional online dynasty at any point in time"

[blkrptnt819]

I have a problem with the strip ball too but that's realistic to some people. I have NEVER seen a team strip ball the whole game. Now the chew clock is not acceptable. Ppl are not playing full length quarters and to shorten them for any reason other than sportsmanship is ridiculous. That's not sour grapes that's bull!!!

[UKwannabe]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

I have a problem with the strip ball too but that's realistic to some people. I have NEVER seen a team strip ball the whole game. Now the chew clock is not acceptable. Ppl are not playing full length quarters and to shorten them for any reason other than sportsmanship is ridiculous. That's not sour grapes that's bull!!!

It's called ball control and strategy. It's the opposite of someone who runs hurry up all game.

Go online, use a run based offensive attack with chew clock on, and watch how stupid your opponent plays because he gets impatient. It's beautiful. It's almost like your opponent feels likes he's playing behind the whole game because you eat up 3-4 minutes a drive.

[blkrptnt819]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

It's called ball control and strategy. It's the opposite of someone who runs hurry up all game.

Go online, use a run based offensive attack with chew clock on, and watch how stupid your opponent plays because he gets impatient. It's beautiful. It's almost like your opponent feels likes he's playing behind the whole game because you eat up 3-4 minutes a drive.

Not realistic. 9 plays a quarter is bull and should not happen. If we played 12 minute quarters i wouldn't care, but what you call beautiful i call cheap.

[UKwannabe]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

Not realistic. 9 plays a quarter is bull and should not happen. If we played 12 minute quarters i wouldn't care, but what you call beautiful i call cheap.

How many times in real life do you see teams snap the ball with 10-15 seconds on the play clock THAT DON'T RUN NO HUDDLE?

Its rare.

But this is a video game so I won't get into it. But running the clock down is part of a users strategy. If you don't like it, than it's obviously doing what I intend it to do. Frustrate.

[blkrptnt819]

How many times in real life do you see teams snap the ball with 10-15 seconds on the play clock THAT DON'T RUN NO HUDDLE?

Its rare.

But this is a video game so I won't get into it. But running the clock down is part of a users strategy. If you don't like it, than it's obviously doing what I intend it to do. Frustrate.

So the goal is to get realistic number of snaps in such a small time frame. I don't get the point of holding the ball when that's already a hard feat to accomplish.

[whodat7]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

so are you calling no huddle cheap, unrealistic or both?

[DrAnguish]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

No huddle is not cheap. When you are playing 5-6 minute quarters no huddle actually makes the number of possessions closer to legit. I FULLY agree that conservative clock / running the clock in user games, outside of the last few minutes, is cheese. If the playclock was shortened in proportion to the actual clock then fine, but its not.

Lets take a 6 minute quarter for example. If you chew the entire 40 seconds pre-snap, and then say that every play takes 5 seconds (for matter of argument) thats 3:00 or HALF A QUARTER for a 3 and out drive. That to me is stupid.

[blkrptnt819]

so are you calling no huddle cheap, unrealistic or both?

No, no huddle is not a problem. It gets the number of plays up to sim. But run clock is sooooo terrible and so bs it doesn't make sense.

[illinifan30]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

I played someone last night who had the tempo set to conservative for the entire game. He was using Louisiana Tech and I was using Army. I chose to kickoff to start the game. He had a good scheme and moved the ball well against me. He scored after a long drive and squibbed when he kicked off to me. I returned the kick for a TD and he had another long drive. By the time the first half was over I had run exactly 2 plays on offense. I lost the game 14-7. The time of possession was 15:xx to 4:xx in his favor.

I thought he was fair as far as how he actually played the game and called his offense and defense and sent him a message saying "Good game" when we finished, but it was hard for me do to a lot with Army and their offense in that situation.

[PowerofRed25]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

This one is tough, because all these things are real concerns, but there really isn't much you can do as a commish. You can't have a rule against aggressive strip because it couldn't be enforced, I can strip the ball well without aggressive on and it looks exactly the same. Nano blitzing is real and it is brutal, but at the same time, without some sort of proof, I don't know what you can do.

As for chew clock, putting chew clock on to start the game is a trashy move, there is no rational for that if the minutes per quarter are any shorter than 9. One drive for each team per quarter is not realistic. Any good dynasty I have been in has a few rules to address the problems you list.

- No chew clock until the 4th quarter
- Can only move one defender manually before the snap. Obviously there is some leeway on this one, you wold usually be able to move a defender to align on a WR if he wasn't before or you can manually move guys to respond to motion, but generally, control one guy until the snap of the ball.

[blkrptnt819]

This one is tough, because all these things are real concerns, but there really isn't much you can do as a commish. You can't have a rule against aggressive strip because it couldn't be enforced, I can strip the ball well without aggressive on and it looks exactly the same. Nano blitzing is real and it is brutal, but at the same time, without some sort of proof, I don't know what you can do.

As for chew clock, putting chew clock on to start the game is a trashy move, there is no rational for that if the minutes per quarter are any shorter than 9. One drive for each team per quarter is not realistic. Any good dynasty I have been in has a few rules to address the problems you list.

- No chew clock until the 4th quarter
- Can only move one defender manually before the snap. Obviously there is some leeway on this one, you wold usually be able to move a defender to align on a WR if he wasn't before or you can manually move guys to respond to motion, but generally, control one guy until the snap of the ball.

U can tell about aggressive strip ball because the CPU does the strip ball animation on just about every play.

[PowerofRed25]

Re: User Vs User problem, As commish what do I do

U can tell about aggressive strip ball because the CPU does the strip ball animation on just about every play.

That isn't necessarily reliable. I've had games where my own strip ball as been on balanced and I've had three or four straight plays where my guys tried stripping the ball because I always try and user strip.

I would just hate to have someone accused of trying to strip when they weren't. Especially when you can just go conservative ball carry and offset it just fine. It is definitely WAY over powered, but I'd rather the other team just adjust their own settings than try and install a rule that can't possibly be enforced.

[blkrptnt819]

That isn't necessarily reliable. I've had games where my own strip ball as been on balanced and I've had three or four straight plays where my guys tried stripping the ball because I always try and user strip.

I would just hate to have someone accused of trying to strip when they weren't. Especially when you can just go conservative ball carry and offset it just fine. It is definitely WAY over powered, but I'd rather the other team just adjust their own settings than try and install a rule that can't possibly be enforced.

But it really downs your run game though. But I do see you point. It's better that way than someone getting accused unfairly. You would like to believe u have honest guys in your OD but that's not always the case.