Online questions and opinions

[oneamongthefence]

After playing a quite a bit of online games this week, I have a few questions.

1. Do you ever concede to an opponents defeat?

2. Is there greater satisfaction in forcing an opponent to quit or winning by 50?

3. In regards to cheesing, what's your tactic in dealing with them? Do play fair or cheese back?

[TNT713]

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1. Do you ever concede to an opponents defeat?

Yes. If something life related preempts a Madden game, I'll concede. So far it's about 3-5 games this year.

2. Is there greater satisfaction in forcing an opponent to quit or winning by 50?

I get greater satisfaction when I make fools quit... The faster I make them bug out, the more satisfaction I get. That said, I respect both the players that beat my by 50 and those that stay in games when down 50.

3. In regards to cheesing, what's your tactic in dealing with them? Do play fair or cheese back?

I don't use 'cheese' to describe football. Instead I describe the tactic in detail according to the principles of personnel, position, and tempo. If a player is throwing a seam pass 20 yards deep to his slot receiver after his 5th step I simply adjust my play to account for the specifics of his execution - no matter what it is.

I don't change my philosophy - just the deployment.

Later

[oneamongthefence]

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Perhaps cheese isn't a good word. Really bad football tactics trying to win. Whether its going for it on fourth down or using the same pass play repeatedly. I will say this year that everything has a counter. There aren't too many 'exploits' in the game.

Another question I'll ask is

Do you set up your depth chart for each team. For example, moving Peyton Manning back on the depth chart or do you use the default depth chart that you're given.

[martz28]

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Perhaps cheese isn't a good word. Really bad football tactics trying to win. Whether its going for it on fourth down or using the same pass play repeatedly. I will say this year that everything has a counter. There aren't too many 'exploits' in the game.

Another question I'll ask is

Do you set up your depth chart for each team. For example, moving Peyton Manning back on the depth chart or do you use the default depth chart that you're given.

i reset the depth chart for the bears with every weeks roster update , i really dont use any other teams so yes i put injured jay cutler and forte back in.

i remember years ago in madden if a guy was hurt you didnt have the option , so i got stuck for nearly an entire season with rookie kyle orton while injured rex grossman wasnt available , funny thing is i was so happy when grossman came back but i had a better record with orton since i played a little safer lol

[martz28]

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as far as your original questions , i will concede or offer mercy its not something i aim to do tho , i prefer close games , i want the ball last with a chance to take the lead

as far as cheese goes i stick to my balanced gameplan , eat clock with runs and short passing the occaisional deep ball and adjust my D to what the opposing offense is doing - just because the other guy does it doesnt make me want to , i would rather win or lose playing the right way.

[TNT713]

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i reset the depth chart... with every weeks roster update , i really dont use any other teams

Same with my Panthers... I never even look at any other team unless I'm stuck with them in a league or something (which is why I stopped playing in leagues).

I sub my best players into the game regardless of their real life injury status... If they are on the roster, I'll use them. But if they get injured during the game, I play the subs.

Later

[azdawgpound]

Re: Online questions and opinions

After playing a quite a bit of online games this week, I have a few questions.

1. Do you ever concede to an opponents defeat?
i have once but most my games end up my peer leaves if they losing they never try to concede to me they just quit.

2. Is there greater satisfaction in forcing an opponent to quit or winning by 50? i like when the person quits when there money plays dont work or they keep turning it over.

3. In regards to cheesing, what's your tactic in dealing with them? Do play fair or cheese back?

i play fair unless i see the person im playing trying kill clock or doing something ala cheese but mostly just go for it on 4th down since i dont know how do have so called cheese plays.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: Online questions and opinions

After playing a quite a bit of online games this week, I have a few questions.

1. Do you ever concede to an opponents defeat?

2. Is there greater satisfaction in forcing an opponent to quit or winning by 50?

3. In regards to cheesing, what's your tactic in dealing with them? Do play fair or cheese back?

1. I never ask for mercy or offer it because I try to "practice" on stuff even when the game is all but decided. However, if my opponent concedes the win to me, I always accept because it seems like poor sportsmanship for me to force someone to continue to avoid quitting.

2. Forcing them to quit because most people that just "give up" like that, were poor sports to begin with. I can't recall ever playing a straight up "gg" against anyone that just up and quit because they were going to lose. This usually occurs with people with very limited "tactics" and if those don't workout, they don't want to play anymore so instead of trying to "concede", they just pull the plug. Also, I rarely intentionally run up the score period, so I can't see beating someone online by 50 points. lol

3. I continue to play "fair" and refuse to compromise my principles by using "any means necessary" to win. I often find myself psychoanalysing my opponent based on their gameplay and trying to deduce why anybody would enjoy playing a NFL simulation game like an arcade game.

Perhaps cheese isn't a good word. Really bad football tactics trying to win. Whether its going for it on fourth down or using the same pass play repeatedly. I will say this year that everything has a counter. There aren't too many 'exploits' in the game.

Another question I'll ask is

Do you set up your depth chart for each team. For example, moving Peyton Manning back on the depth chart or do you use the default depth chart that you're given.

I always reset it for the best players to be on the field. That said, now that you mention it, I would prefer that this not be allowed in online ranked games though. The whole point of updating rosters and playing online ranked is supposed to be using the current available players. While I wouldn't keep my starters on the bench given the option, it should be disabled for everyone in online ranked games, imo.

Generally, I want to see online ranked do more to add decision risk/reward to games and gamer in-game decisions. I want to see things like DPP and injuries carry over for 24-48 hours in online ranked games, along with temporary bans for constantly quitting.

[Aolian_Am]

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1) Yes, but it makes me mad when it is in the last two minutes, C'mon man, it's only a 2 minute wait.

2) I start to tone it down at a 3 TD lead

3) I try to stick to my gameplan at all time.

I also wanted to say that I switch in my injured players, except keading, because novak has been a stud. I also hate how people don't stick to one team, don't people have superstitions, lol, i feel like bad omens will befall my team.

[Big FN Deal]

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2. Forcing them to quit because most people that just "give up" like that, were poor sports to begin with. I can't recall ever playing a straight up "gg" against anyone that just up and quit because they were going to lose. This usually occurs with people with very limited "tactics" and if those don't workout, they don't want to play anymore so instead of trying to "concede", they just pull the plug. Also, I rarely intentionally run up the score period, so I can't see beating someone online by 50 points. lol

Well, got to "eat crow" on this one. Just played an online ranked game against whom I presume was a newborn baby judging by their lack of how to play Madden, even a little bit, 52-0, without scoring a TD in the entire 3rd quarter or in the last 2 minutes of the 4th.

[TNT713]

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Well, got to "eat crow" on this one. Just played an online ranked game against whom I presume was a newborn baby judging by their lack of how to play Madden, even a little bit, 52-0, without scoring a TD in the entire 3rd quarter or in the last 2 minutes of the 4th.

Christmas always brings FRESH MEAT. The online landscape seems to change for about 2 months immediately following the holidays and the level of the competition drops drastically. To use your analogy (because it's a good one), there are a ton of newborn Madden babies right now.

There will be more quitters, more blowouts, more zany antics, etc as the new Madden players re-learn how to play Madden to meet the demands of playing against the world. Even guys that have played Madden for decades can look like newborns when they get online.

My rebirth came with a 56-3 loss that was the result of -42 yards of total offense and a defense that gave up 500+ yards. Personally, I'm glad I got crushed my first game. Losses like that will either be a wake up call or a game breaker for your opponent - depending on his personality.

Later

[Aolian_Am]

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lol, Christmas time was always a great time to be good at call of duty.

[baseballsim]

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1. Do you ever concede to an opponents defeat?
Yes I do this when I'm not having fun or got to do something else.

2. Is there greater satisfaction in forcing an opponent to quit or winning by 50?
I can't get satisfaction from either one of these. Blowing out an opponent can get boring real quick.

3. In regards to cheesing, what's your tactic in dealing with them? Do play fair or cheese back?
I always play fair partly because I'm not in the know of all of the programming defects users take advantage of.

[WhoCares?]

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I think a fun strategy with "cheesers" is to run clock.

Even if the play is an incomplete pass or out of bounds, I wait until I have less than 10 seconds on the play clock to hike it.


I would think nothing pisses them off more than watching you run and pass the ball for a 10-12 minute possession, and then kicking to them with 50 seconds to go in the second quarter.

Alot of the "cheesers" are just little kids. They have a lower level of satisfaction than the player who is using football knowledge to call their plays.

I have noticed if a guy goes for it on 4th down on the first drive, I take as much time as possible to score to make them lose interest, if you get up by two scores they quit and you can try to find a straight game quicker. Good luck with that though.

[baseballsim]

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I think a fun strategy with "cheesers" is to run clock.

Even if the play is an incomplete pass or out of bounds, I wait until I have less than 10 seconds on the play clock to hike it.

Actually yes, I've done this as well. I'll even use a run heavy scheme.