FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

[kaymagic91]

Ok heres my reasoning , after numerous tries i beat barcelona on legendary. But then as i played more and more lower teams i realised that almost all of them play as though they are Barcelona on legendary.

Possession football, accurate passes, super timed tackles and interceptions. For a sim game this is the farthest you could get from sim. IMO EA should give us an option where the difficulty of a team should is based on the quality of their players and not what difficulty you set it on.

I shouldn't be able to weave past Barcelona on lower difficulties and Crystal Palace have no right keeping 60% possession against Man utd. Also this would make career mode alot more interesting because you wouldnt be able to beat every team once you master a difficulty.

I say they should give us an option and not change it entirely because i understand that then weaker players would still be able to enjoy the game beating big teams.

But for me i want Barcelona/Real madrid/Man utd to play like legendary and Crystal Palace, Zaragoza, Wigan to play like Professional or lower.

I want you guys opinion on how this could be implemented

[LiberNull]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

What sliders and controls (assisted/semi/manual) settings are you using ?

[lhslancers]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

First off I am not real good and this is the first year I am still playing any soccer/footie game this long past release so that says something about the quality of this game.
Some people complain that even on Legendary it is till too easy to dribble past the opposition. Well just don't play like that. They don't play like that IRL.
Play full manual Legendary turn up your passing and shot error sliders and turn down the CPU error for both.
Turn your acceleration under the CPU. See if this helps.

[peigone]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

Some people complain that even on Legendary it is till too easy to dribble past the opposition. Well just don't play like that.

The problem isn't that dribbling is too easy, the problem is the CPU is too passive. It's an issue wih the default programming and gameplay settings that's easily remedied. Both sliders and CCTs completely fix all the various gameplay problems you and the OP are pointing out. Create custom tactics and adjust the way different CPU teams play; raise CPU defensive pressure so that you can't just dribble thru the entire CPU team; and use the sliders -- speed and accel specifically -- to customize the difficulty level to whatever works for you.

In essence the sliders cancel out the difficulty levels this year anyway. I normally play FIFA on Pro difficulty. But this year, with just a few slider adjustments, I'm having challenging and fair games on Legendary.

[ronaldo9]

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Hey peigone - what slider set are you using? I saw you are using krebstar's CTT as well as me, but as of now I'm just using sliders of my own as I go along. Really like the attacking play of FIFA, just not getting the right CPU attacking the other way and I think I'm getting closer and closer to really enjoying FIFA again

[DeceptiveBlaze]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

you really need to stop these bs posts that are useless. You dont want it to be hard dont play on legendary period. It's really that simple, no need to make post like this because you suck at the game

[peigone]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

Hey peigone - what slider set are you using? I saw you are using krebstar's CTT as well as me, but as of now I'm just using sliders of my own as I go along. Really like the attacking play of FIFA, just not getting the right CPU attacking the other way and I think I'm getting closer and closer to really enjoying FIFA again

Hey ronaldo, I'm using my own CCTs and slider tweaks. So your problem is the CPU doesn't attack the way you want it to, is that it? A couple of things: really max out the CCT settings to see a real difference in attacking behaviour. Set a particular team's Build Up Speed to 1, or Shooting to 100... that sort of thing.

The other thing I don't mention when I talk about CCTs is that I've also been editing individual player ratings. I don't mention it because I know nobody around here really has the time or interest in that kind of detailed tweaking. But for me it's the finally key to really getting this game to play realistically. I've been editing players' Dribbling and Long Shot ratings, which radically alters the way the in which CPU teams set up their attacks and shots.

[lhslancers]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

Hey ronaldo, I'm using my own CCTs and slider tweaks. So your problem is the CPU doesn't attack the way you want it to, is that it? A couple of things: really max out the CCT settings to see a real difference in attacking behaviour. Set a particular team's Build Up Speed to 1, or Shooting to 100... that sort of thing.

The other thing I don't mention when I talk about CCTs is that I've also been editing individual player ratings. I don't mention it because I know nobody around here really has the time or interest in that kind of detailed tweaking. But for me it's the finally key to really getting this game to play realistically. I've been editing players' Dribbling and Long Shot ratings, which radically alters the way the in which CPU teams set up their attacks and shots.

If it wouldn't be too much to ask I would be interested in seeing something like that.

[ronaldo9]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

Thanks Peigone! I've got the sliders pretty good, so I'll use the CTT's as a base and max/min them out. I'd also love to see some of your ratings adjustments that you've made.

[peigone]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

If it wouldn't be too much to ask I would be interested in seeing something like that.

Krebstar's CCTs are probably your best bet, a lot of people are using them and like them. As far as player ratings editing, I can give you a couple of quick tips to try.

The FIFA series is different from PES in the way some of the player ratings work. In FIFA, ratings like Dribbling and Long Shot don't increase a player's skill in those areas, they increase how often he performs the skill. Part of the problem with only adjusting the CCTs is that it only has a minimal affect on how often a player will perform a certain skill, like shooting from distance for example.

The major complaints people seem to have with FIFA 12, that I've read about, are that the CPU will dribble into the box most times before trying a shot and won't shoot from distance. Also, the CPU will hold onto the ball, dribble down the wings too often and then fire crosses into your box.

CCT tweaks will fix problem #1 to a degree if one raises the Shooting modifier. But if you want to see a sizable increase in CPU shots as well as shots from distance, you also need to raise individual players' Long Shot rating. I have one test team that I play against and they regularly take up to 80% of their shots from outside the penalty area, often from well out. It's almost too much now, lol.

Problem #2 can't be solved without editing individual players' Dribble rating. The problem is a lot of star players have Dribble ratings in the 80s and 90s. Meaning they're going to spend a lot of time running around with the ball without passing it off or shooting.

I found a good test range to try with Dribble ratings is to set everyone on the team within a range of 50-65. That one tweak changes the entire team attack dynamic and essentially eliminates two of the major gameplay problems: no more just running up the wings and crossing, and no more dribbling well into the box before making a play.

To really create teams with a wide variety of different attack styles, some of these edits are IMO an absolute must. I don't have a life so I don't mind spending 10-20 minutes editing a team, heh. Plus I only play single season tourneys, so I can edit a handful of teams and then can start a season with them. For those who play Career mode or whatever, it's obviously going to be too much work.

[lhslancers]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a shot.

[kaymagic91]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

you really need to stop these bs posts that are useless. You dont want it to be hard dont play on legendary period. It's really that simple, no need to make post like this because you suck at the game

Im so fed up of these keyboard gangsters, if you aint got nothing constructive to say then don't post a word. I already play and win on legendary my problem is that every team on legendary plays the same due to the difficulty settings.

I wont even return the insult because im against talking **** behind a computer screen like a *****

[jripper09]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

what this game needs is a realistic setting which basically means if i play with barcelona against sunderland even if i normally play beginner level i should win 7 of 10 games. just make a realistic level for all sports games and if its too easy then play the pirates on realistic level for baseball. i cant believe they have never done this. you can still have legendary setting and get cramps in youre hands from neuorotic button and stick controls where all the teams are the same but i would like to play a soccer game where you can actually tell what team by there style and players whether im playing with a weaker team or a stronger team.

[peigone]

Re: FIFA 12 DIFFICULTIES SHOULD BE SCRAPPED

what this game needs is a realistic setting which basically means if i play with barcelona against sunderland even if i normally play beginner level i should win 7 of 10 games. just make a realistic level for all sports games and if its too easy then play the pirates on realistic level for baseball. i cant believe they have never done this. you can still have legendary setting and get cramps in youre hands from neuorotic button and stick controls where all the teams are the same but i would like to play a soccer game where you can actually tell what team by there style and players whether im playing with a weaker team or a stronger team.

Everything you stated can be fixed with a little user input and effort. Look around the forum for tips if you're really interested. Heck, go back and read page 1 of this very thread.