Sage Rosenfels the boss?

[legenddt]

Wow, just wow. I was doing a Titans chise, I cut Hasselbeck as my plan was to start locker and get his feet wet to nfl action and I didn't want Hasselbeck's 7 mil counting against my cap. So I get through the first 9 games of the season and we're 5-4 and leading the division. The success is mostly despite lockers play as he has been pretty bad. I'm playing on all madden sliders and had been winning thanks to my defense and running game. Chris Johnson was on pace for a 1700 yard season and my defense was led by Cameron Wake (traded for him in preseason). Locker though, was bad, through 9 games he had 1500 yards passing, 7 td's and 17 int's with only a 51 completion percentage. His rushing numbers were respectable though with 250 and 5 td's but nonetheless I was winning despite him, not cause of him. In my 10th game against the Falcons, Locker went down with an abdominal tear, he was out for the rest of the game and the next 2. So in steps my backup qb Chris Simms who proceeds to absolutely hand the game to the falcons. Never have I played worse with a qb, his stats made locker's look good. I got completely trashed by the Falcons and was knocked down to 5-5 and tied with the Colts for the division lead. The Colts were plagued with injuries to some stars and I knew I had a legit chance to steal the division but I'd need to keep winning even without Locker and Simms clearly wasn't going to help me do that so i went into free agency and nabbed Sage Rosenfels, only a 85 thp but and 86 short acc and an 85 med acc. Rosenfels proceeds to tear it up over the next 2 games, and I mean torch it. Each game he goes over 300 yards with 3 td's, completion percentage near 70 and a qb rating over 100 in each game. I win both games (feels good to actually go out and attack to win rather than just grinding wins out) and Locker comes back from injury for my next game against the Saints but I stick with the hot hand in Rosenfels. We proceed to beat the Saints 35-33 and another great game by Rosenfels, the next week we hammer the Colts to improve to 9-5 and clinch the division. I've got 2 games left and am fighting for home field advantage. But I'm also left wondering what to do about Rosenfels, the guy is playing possesed. He's only 33 years old which isn't old at all for a qb, I might have a controversy on my hands beyond this season (rosenfels is my starter the rest of the current season)

[billyboy316]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

Yea I would see if Sage's ratings drop much over the off season and how much Locker improved. If Locker doesn't see a big improvement in ratings then I would have him sit next year. Hopefully after 2 seasons in the NFL, Locker will develope into a nice quarterback for you.

[Ampking101]

Same happened with me in an online franchise. I was the Giants and I traded Eli Manning away because he was massively overpaid for his level of play I was getting from him. I got like a 2nd and 3rd rounder for him. I had picked up Nate Davis who needed ample time to progress and I was left with Sage Rosenfels.

Now I wouldn't say Rosenfels was a game changer for me but I put up some decent numbers with him. I ended up going like 5-11 because I had traded a bunch of overpaid aging vets for draft picks and when Hakeem Nicks wasn't injured Mario Manningham was. Even with the injuries Sage almost single handedly got me a few key wins. The biggest one being defeating the undefeated 9-0 Eagles.

Sadly after the season he regressed so I picked up a rookie QB and have Nate Davis as my back up but Sage is a hell of a player with only C potential. His overall is very misleading.

[legenddt]

Definitely, his awareness is low which is a big contributor to his low ovr but that really only affects sim

[TheDelta]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

Definitely, his awareness is low which is a big contributor to his low ovr but that really only affects sim

That is completely wrong. Awareness plays a huge role in how a user QB throws the ball.

[legenddt]

That is completely wrong. Awareness plays a huge role in how a user QB throws the ball.

Care to explain it then? I personally haven't noticed this but if its true can you tell me what it does?

[TheDelta]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

Care to explain it then? I personally haven't noticed this but if its true can you tell me what it does?

Awareness plays a huge role in ball placement, especially when there are defenders involved. There are videos out there analysing it, a QB with high awareness is more likely to hit his receiver in stride and to correctly anticipate routes, and is less likely to throw what I like to call "autopicks", as in passes that are thrown straight at the defender.

[legenddt]

Awareness plays a huge role in ball placement, especially when there are defenders involved. There are videos out there analysing it, a QB with high awareness is more likely to hit his receiver in stride and to correctly anticipate routes, and is less likely to throw what I like to call "autopicks", as in passes that are thrown straight at the defender.

Thanks, much appreciated.

[Nza]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

Maybe I'm imagining things but I also notice low AWR QBs are much worse than vets under pressure - if I have a few guys in my face, the passes will often suck bad and I feel at times even the ability to get the ball out at all is a factor with low AWR. As my QB progresses he seems more capable of getting off the pass as opposed to be sacked, or throwing a totally catchless pass right into the turf in front of him. It could be something other than AWR though - possibly just the OVR itself.

[TheDelta]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

It's definitely not OVR, OVR has no meaning whatsoever to what happens on the field.

It could be Awareness, but what's playing a HUGE role in this are the DPP status effects. As soon as you get a negative "Sense Pressure" or "Tuck & Run" effect, your QB will absolutely suck as soon as there's pressure, he'll take forever to get the ball out and even if he does, his accuracy is a lot lower than usual. I think confidence and consistency play a big role in this but since most of this stuff isn't documented, I'm not really sure about how it works, players with low confidence can get sacked once and immediately go to "Paranoid" while you can sack solid elite QBs like Brady or Manning half a dozen times and they still are seemingly unaffected.

[dirtguru]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

Perfect....I need a solid number 2 and Rosenfels is available for cheap!

Thanx

[artan335]

Re: Sage Rosenfels the boss?

Rosenfels isn't going to grow.. He's going to decrease no matter how great/poor he performs, it's pre destined. So just start Locker who will probably grow like 5 points. Plus Locker is a ****ing beast.