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  • cursive
    MVP
    • Apr 2010
    • 1115

    #1

    Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

    Updated video with splash,


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    Just in case some of you don't go into the Roster section, I wanted to keep you up on my latest project. Normally every year I make a set of Draft Classes and a up-to-date Roster file after the Draft, but this year I thought I breakdown exactly what goes into the work behind it all and shed some light on the New Draft Class Import Logic of Madden 12.

    I started this years Draft Classes with the same expectations as everyone else, wanting to find out how great this "New Draft Class Import Logic" was. I can say that at first I was disappointed just as a lot of you were, but after hours of number crunching I found out exactly how Madden decided to Import Rookies from NCAA.

    So what was my first step in creating the Perfect Draft Class? Well it was the same as everyone else, find a accurate roster with accurate player names. After testing periodically I decided to go Mustangs84/community roster for 360, but suggest looking into Luvtotha9s rosters for PS3. After downloading these rosters, I knew my first step was to take every player that was not a senior and change them into a true sophomore. This is the only way to get the most accurate 2012 Draft Class, and not have to worry about players leaving early that decided to stay in school. On that note, over the course of the next few weeks we will be adjusting any underclassman who decide to declare for the NFL Draft who haven't already. I know some of you are thinking that changing underclassmen to Seniors might mess up age when importing to Madden, well it won't because age is actually set to be random with majority of incoming rookies at 21 or 22 years old.

    The second thing we did was test, test, and a little more testing. We imported draft class after draft class and took down all the rating in NCAA and then again once the player was in Madden. We took averages from each player, at every position, for every rating, and came up with some pretty solid data. We found out that when EA Sports and Madden 12 stated that they implemented "All New" Draft Class Import Logic, what they really meant to say was...

    PHYSICAL RATINGS WILL BE TRANSFERRED OVER AND POTENTIAL WILL BE SET BY PROJECTED DRAFT ROUND SELECTED

    What do we mean by physical ratings? Speed, Strength, Agility, Acceleration, Jumping, Ect. So now you might be asking yourself, "what ratings are decreased when importing players?" Well we can answer that for you as well. All players will see a decrease in Awareness, which is expected. Want isn't expected was the extent of the decrease, which compared to the average Awareness Rating in NCAA 12 didn't give us what we liked to see. We found that on average a players Awareness decrease around 15 points, but when your average Awareness in NCAA for Seniors or Elite plate is in the mid 90's we ended up seeing a lot of rookies with Awareness in the low 80's. After some research from past Madden Ratings, we couldn't find one rookie with an Awareness Rating over 70. So understanding the average decrease we decided to re-rate every player in NCAA 12 to a 70 Awareness Rating and only the Elite or projected top picks to start at 85.

    Once we made all the adjustments to Awareness and made sure we only had draft eligible players coming out in our draft class we did more testing. We noticed one type of position that seemed to consistently project a majority of it's players a top the 1st and 2nd rounds. This set of players came from the Defensive Line position and have anywhere from 10-15 players projected to go in the 1st round alone. Again we went back to the numbers and found that going back to previous ratings we saw high Tackling, Power Moves, Finesse Moves, Block Shed, and even the occasional pursuit ratings. One rating that did stand out, was Play Recognition. Our research found that no rookie Defensive Lineman has came in with a Play Recognition Rating over 70 and based off that we decided to decrease the rating down to 70.

    If you are asking yourself where you can find this draft class, you are going to have to wait a few more weeks so we can finalize everything. The good news is we have 5 easy steps to create the perfect 2012 draft class for Madden 12.

    Step 1. Find an accurate re-rated NCAA 12 Roster

    Step 2. Adjust all players not eligible for the draft to a true Sophomore

    Step 3. Decrease all Awareness ratings to 70 for incoming Rookies

    Step 4. Decrease all Play Recognition ratings to 70 for Defensive Lineman

    Step 5. Make minor adjustments to who you think will be a Top 15 Draft Pick

    Thanks for the time and see you next time,
    Cursive138 from BleedingEdgeGaming.com

    ***UPDATE***

    Final 2012 Draft File...

    Here it is http://www.mediafire.com/?5edehlozi3x9xuh

    This is my completed Draft Class for the 2012 NFL Season, more season will follow shortly.

    ***UPDATE***

    Here is a edited 2012 Draft Class and my 2013 Draft Class;

    MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.


    Thanks Again!

    For Directions on how to get these files on your 360 look at this thread;

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...360-users.html
    Last edited by cursive; 02-04-2012, 05:09 PM.
    http://bleedingedgegaming.com/
  • xblake16x
    Pro
    • Jan 2009
    • 620

    #2
    Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

    Thanks for all the hard work! This sounds absolutely great.

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    • SoulAssassin
      Rookie
      • Mar 2010
      • 233

      #3
      Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

      Nice breakdown.

      A couple additional questions you might be able to answer...

      1) How many players per each position does the game put into each class?

      2) Is it an absolute set number? And what is the rating range from NCAA that it will pull from to fill this number? (ex. all QBs between 89ovr-99ovr, or the 12 top OVR rated QBs, etc)

      3) Is it possible to cut down on the # of FBs, Ks, or any other position if you drop their ratings low enough?
      XBL GT: SoulAssassin925

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      • cursive
        MVP
        • Apr 2010
        • 1115

        #4
        Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

        Originally posted by SoulAssassin
        Nice breakdown.

        A couple additional questions you might be able to answer...

        1) How many players per each position does the game put into each class?

        2) Is it an absolute set number? And what is the rating range from NCAA that it will pull from to fill this number? (ex. all QBs between 89ovr-99ovr, or the 12 top OVR rated QBs, etc)

        3) Is it possible to cut down on the # of FBs, Ks, or any other position if you drop their ratings low enough?
        1. Off the top of my head I would say there is around 15 players per position. I think I had a class that loaded with only a handful of LG's.

        2. I do think it's a set number and my guess would be around the Top 250 players. The bad thing is lets say there are 50 players all rated at 88 in NCAA, Madden doesn't always take the same players everytime.

        3. We will be doing testing to get this number down, but on my initial tests I saw 9 Kickers, 9 Punters, and 14 Fullbacks. I hope to get this number down to 5 for each. Just need to know who the Top 5 are at each position.
        http://bleedingedgegaming.com/

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        • live to die54
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 0

          #5
          Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

          Do you have a gamertag we can download these at?

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          • cursive
            MVP
            • Apr 2010
            • 1115

            #6
            Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

            Originally posted by live to die54
            Do you have a gamertag we can download these at?
            My gamertag is Cursive138, they are getting edited daily and uploaded nightly.
            http://bleedingedgegaming.com/

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            • live to die54
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 0

              #7
              Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

              Originally posted by cursive
              My gamertag is Cursive138, they are getting edited daily and uploaded nightly.
              Thank you so much for doing this I know it takes a lot of time

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              • SoulAssassin
                Rookie
                • Mar 2010
                • 233

                #8
                Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                Originally posted by cursive
                1. Off the top of my head I would say there is around 15 players per position. I think I had a class that loaded with only a handful of LG's.

                2. I do think it's a set number and my guess would be around the Top 250 players. The bad thing is lets say there are 50 players all rated at 88 in NCAA, Madden doesn't always take the same players everytime.

                3. We will be doing testing to get this number down, but on my initial tests I saw 9 Kickers, 9 Punters, and 14 Fullbacks. I hope to get this number down to 5 for each. Just need to know who the Top 5 are at each position.
                Thx for feedback... something I remember some ppl did when tuning classes last year was switching some of the power RBs to FBs due to too many FBs being in the class when FB is a position of little value when it comes to drafting... the user would have to switch them back to HB after the draft concludes, but it was at least a constructive way of building more depth for the RB position. shrug.
                XBL GT: SoulAssassin925

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                • cursive
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1115

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                  Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                  Originally posted by SoulAssassin
                  Thx for feedback... something I remember some ppl did when tuning classes last year was switching some of the power RBs to FBs due to too many FBs being in the class when FB is a position of little value when it comes to drafting... the user would have to switch them back to HB after the draft concludes, but it was at least a constructive way of building more depth for the RB position. shrug.
                  Looking at a couple draft sights I decided to go back and only keep some of the players expected to be drafter or picked up as a Free Agent as Seniors. This only left me with 9 Fullbacks, 6 Kickers, and 6 Punters that were rated over 79 in NCAA and still listed as Seniors. Out of the 9 Fullbacks, 3 are TE’s and 1 is a HB that are projected to make the switch in the NFL. The players switched were RB Ganaway (Baylor), TE Dunsmore (Northwestern), TE Halahuni (Oregon State), and TE Ellison (USC).
                  I will test this in a Draft Class tonight and see if I actually get the 9 FBs, and 6 Ks and Ps. I will also do a quick count of every position and post later tonight.
                  http://bleedingedgegaming.com/

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                  • trevor3_2009
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 99

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                    When I was trying to fix all of the D-linemen in the first round issue, I re-rated all of them. For the D-linemen if they are rated below 83 overall, they won't make the cut for the draft class. It only put two of them in the game. So I tried doing this with punters and kickers and it still put them in the class. That leads me to believe that there is a certain rating for each position to get them into the class. I might do some testing on this tonight and see if that is the case.
                    Dynasty URL: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2047536342
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                    • cursive
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1115

                      #11
                      If you still have NCAA on the 360 download my roster file under the GT: Cursive138. You might be surprised at how my re-rates are and how they come out in Madden. I did another test and was able to get the ratings in the first round spread out better. The highest 1st rounder was a 85 overall and the lowest was a 75 overall. I also saw was able to get the defensive lineman down to only 10 in the first round, 4 left ends, 3 right ends, and 3 tackles. I want to bump up a few linebackers and this class should almost be perfect. I am expecting a initial 2012 draft class to be ready Sunday.
                      http://bleedingedgegaming.com/

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                      • Herky
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                        • Jun 2004
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                        #12
                        Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                        Great job on the video. These are shaping up nicely.
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                        • cursive
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1115

                          #13
                          Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                          Final 2012 Draft File...

                          Here it is http://www.mediafire.com/?5edehlozi3x9xuh

                          This is my completed Draft Class for the 2012 NFL Season, more season will follow shortly.

                          Thanks Again!
                          http://bleedingedgegaming.com/

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                          • Lodeus
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 448

                            #14
                            Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                            Originally posted by cursive
                            Final 2012 Draft File...

                            Here it is http://www.mediafire.com/?5edehlozi3x9xuh

                            This is my completed Draft Class for the 2012 NFL Season, more season will follow shortly.

                            Thanks Again!
                            Does the draft work out about the same if I just get it from Xbox roster dl form the game?

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                            • cursive
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1115

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 12 Draft Class Import: The Breakdown

                              Originally posted by Lodeus
                              Does the draft work out about the same if I just get it from Xbox roster dl form the game?
                              Yes because it's a 1 year roster only, this roster is only meant to export the 2012 draft class. Any other draft class will not come out right, I am working on another roster for 2013 an beyond,
                              http://bleedingedgegaming.com/

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