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  • stealyerface
    MVP
    • Feb 2004
    • 1803

    #1

    Well There's an Interesting Insight...

    Sometimes I cruise around the Pastapadre site looking for interesting tidbits, and it is the same place that I saw a report last year that MLB The Show was looking into instituting an EA-style "Online Code" to help reclaim lost revenue to used copies being sold.

    That story was quickly rebuffed by Russell, but this afternoon I glanced quickly at this little gem:

    From all accounts the PlayStation Vita version of MLB 12: The Show is shaping up to be excellent - not only as a standalone product on par with the PS3 version but by offering the ability to save on one and continue on the other for those who buy a copy on each. The downside


    Somehow I was not given the impression by the "Rep for SCEA" that the game had been shortchanged due to another platform..

    Funny how we read things differently I guess...

    ~syf
    "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD
  • nemesis04
    RIP Ty My Buddy
    • Feb 2004
    • 13530

    #2
    Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

    Another year, another dig!

    LOL at all the banned OS members commenting.
    “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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    • SoxFan01605
      All Star
      • Jan 2008
      • 7982

      #3
      Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

      Heh...look at his comments about The Show when he was invited to the Community Event and then look at his comments since SCEA stopped inviting him. That really tells you all you need to know about his "insight"...lol

      I suppose we should all be grateful to him though. After all, it was his hard-nosed journalism that got SCEA to remove those troublesome online league restrictions last year and stop their "deceptive tactics." Don't believe it? Just ask him.

      Think the $60 paid for MLB 11: The Show meant the advertised features would be available? Think again. SCEA has made a concerted effort to prevent the use of online leagues. Many gamers have been outraged to find that the product they purchased includes numerous blocks to utilizing the feature as the company remains unapologetic

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      • Yankees2009Champs
        Pro
        • Mar 2010
        • 710

        #4
        Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

        Originally posted by nemesis04
        Another year, another dig!

        LOL at all the banned OS members commenting.
        It's unfortunate but it is true that VITA took away from areas that could have been worked on.

        I honestly could care less for a handheld version, I haven't played a handheld game since gameboy. I don't commute and would rather play a game in surround sound on my big tv. But maybe for others it is a benefit.

        Can't wait til we get to see these improvements in video form.
        "Undaunted, I knew the game was mine to win. Just like in life, ALL of my successes depend on me. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than heck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world."

        Legendary pitcher Kenny Powers

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        • nemesis04
          RIP Ty My Buddy
          • Feb 2004
          • 13530

          #5
          Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

          Originally posted by Yankees2009Champs
          It's unfortunate but it is true that VITA took away from areas that could have been worked on.

          I honestly could care less for a handheld version, I haven't played a handheld game since gameboy. I don't commute and would rather play a game in surround sound on my big tv. But maybe for others it is a benefit.

          Can't wait til we get to see these improvements in video form.
          Like you said it depends on where your stance is. You see it as a hindrance, I view it as an opportunity to have another avenue to keep playing when I normally would not be able to. You also have to figure this was the vita's initial buildup year so extra time was needed. I am sure it will not be this time consuming here on in. Funny thing, no one seemed to complain when they were still doing the PS2 and PSP versions as far as taking time away from the PS3. I guess it depends on how you spin it!
          “The saddest part of life is when someone who gave you your best memories becomes a memory”

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          • davis420
            MVP
            • Jan 2010
            • 1073

            #6
            Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

            The Show almost always fixes their problems. It's easily the best sports game out there. I can care less about grass and other things as long as the GAMEPLAY is solid and every year it is. Mark me down for another satisfied year of playing the Show over all the other sports games out!
            PS3, we had a good run! (7/18/09-10/5/14)

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            • Yankees2009Champs
              Pro
              • Mar 2010
              • 710

              #7
              Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

              Originally posted by nemesis04
              Like you said it depends on where your stance is. You see it as a hindrance, I view it as an opportunity to have another avenue to keep playing when I normally would not be able to. You also have to figure this was the vita's initial buildup year so extra time was needed. I am sure it will not be this time consuming here on in. Funny thing, no one seemed to complain when they were still doing the PS2 and PSP versions as far as taking time away from the PS3. I guess it depends on how you spin it!
              That's an excellent last point, but I would say they weren't starting from scratch with PS2 versions. They had years past games to build on.
              "Undaunted, I knew the game was mine to win. Just like in life, ALL of my successes depend on me. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than heck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world."

              Legendary pitcher Kenny Powers

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              • Woodweaver
                Developer
                • Apr 2006
                • 1145

                #8
                Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                Originally posted by Yankees2009Champs
                That's an excellent last point, but I would say they weren't starting from scratch with PS2 versions. They had years past games to build on.
                We haven't been starting from scratch on any of the versions mentioned.
                "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                • Yankees2009Champs
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 710

                  #9
                  Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                  Originally posted by Woodweaver
                  We haven't been starting from scratch on any of the versions mentioned.
                  Wait, I hope I'm not misunderstanding you.

                  What I was saying was that you guys had to start from scratch with the VITA version. That means investing alot of time in its creation. The PS2 versions had previous builds such as MLB 07, MLB 08 and so on to work off of.
                  Last edited by Yankees2009Champs; 01-26-2012, 06:35 PM.
                  "Undaunted, I knew the game was mine to win. Just like in life, ALL of my successes depend on me. I'm the man who has the ball, I'm the man who can throw it faster than heck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world."

                  Legendary pitcher Kenny Powers

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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #10
                    Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                    OMG...

                    Somebody please call PP a WHAAAAAAAAAAMUBULAAAAAAANCE.....

                    I love all the ***** comments.


                    M.K.
                    Knight165
                    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                    • Bobhead
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4926

                      #11
                      Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                      Sacrificing Franchise upgrades for Vita time is no different from sacrificing commentary upgrades for RTTS time, or sacrificing fielding improvement for batting physics upgrades. This stuff happens every year, to every single development team in existence, for every single game. There will ALWAYS be something that could have been worked on, at the expense of something that was, and I find it somewhat silly that this illogical complaint gets repeated as much as it does.

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                      • mlblover15
                        3X MLBTS Champion
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 4144

                        #12
                        Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                        Wouldn't it make more sense to have one team per version of the game... so that there is total dedicated team for each platform of the game. this way each year each version gets all the attention it deserves... again... im talking about common sense... something in my dealings with companies of all sorts over my life doesn't seem to fit well with them.

                        but wait a minute, isn't the Vita platform a direct port if you will of the exact PS3 version??? if so there is no reason why they couldn't have just coped the code from one platform to the other. Unless again common sense talking here... the Vita isn't totally up to par with the actual PS3 platform and all of its stuff it has to offer...

                        again just me thinking out loud
                        Last edited by mlblover15; 01-26-2012, 07:52 PM.
                        "Baseball is life, without Baseball life itself ceases to exist." - Ken Sprague

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #13
                          Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                          Originally posted by mlblover15
                          Wouldn't it make more sense to have one team per version of the game... so that there is total dedicated team for each platform of the game. this way each year each version gets all the attention it deserves... again... im talking about common sense... something in my dealings with companies of all sorts over my life doesn't seem to fit well with them.
                          Sure.
                          Got a couple of mil extra laying around to get the ball rolling on that?!

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                          • nomo17k
                            Permanently Banned
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5735

                            #14
                            Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                            Originally posted by mlblover15
                            Wouldn't it make more sense to have one team per version of the game... so that there is total dedicated team for each platform of the game. this way each year each version gets all the attention it deserves... again... im talking about common sense... something in my dealings with companies of all sorts over my life doesn't seem to fit well with them.
                            From what I have read so far the way it's been done right now would be good for the franchise, as long as their goal is to produce the same game on two different platforms.

                            Like some CD guy posted that one change in the game that the dev made made into both PS3 and Vita versions the next day... I believe that's possible because a lot of resources are shared by both platforms. So if you squash one bug reported in PS3, it would propagate to Vita, and vice versa.. It's good that way...
                            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                            • Russell_SCEA
                              SCEA Community Manager
                              • May 2005
                              • 4161

                              #15
                              Re: Well There's an Interesting Insight...

                              Originally posted by mlblover15
                              Wouldn't it make more sense to have one team per version of the game... so that there is total dedicated team for each platform of the game. this way each year each version gets all the attention it deserves... again... im talking about common sense... something in my dealings with companies of all sorts over my life doesn't seem to fit well with them.

                              but wait a minute, isn't the Vita platform a direct port if you will of the exact PS3 version??? if so there is no reason why they couldn't have just coped the code from one platform to the other. Unless again common sense talking here... the Vita isn't totally up to par with the actual PS3 platform and all of its stuff it has to offer...

                              again just me thinking out loud

                              If it was only that easy, but it's not. Nor is Vita a direct port of the PS3 version.

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