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  • JJ04
    Rookie
    • Nov 2011
    • 15

    #1

    Online League BS

    God this is some major BS! Just played a guy with the chiefs in an online league. He kept running a hurry up offense in the I-form and had amazing blocking everytime no matter what defense I ran. He would switch the way of the play or audible to a screen. On defense he ran the same formation every play and only rushed 2 guys and dropped back the rest. He also stripped my guys 4 TIMES!!! By far the worst time I have had playing Madden. Also while up a ton he began to throw that ball and go for it on 4th down.
    "Tonight might be the night I make it, so lets live it up and don't regret it at all!"
  • CRMosier_LM
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 2061

    #2
    Re: Online League BS

    Originally posted by JJ04
    God this is some major BS! Just played a guy with the chiefs in an online league. He kept running a hurry up offense in the I-form and had amazing blocking everytime no matter what defense I ran. He would switch the way of the play or audible to a screen. On defense he ran the same formation every play and only rushed 2 guys and dropped back the rest. He also stripped my guys 4 TIMES!!! By far the worst time I have had playing Madden. Also while up a ton he began to throw that ball and go for it on 4th down.
    Sounds like a garbage league man. Need to find one that doesn't allow that stuff.

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    • JJ04
      Rookie
      • Nov 2011
      • 15

      #3
      Re: Online League BS

      Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
      Sounds like a garbage league man. Need to find one that doesn't allow that stuff.
      Yea I need to find one, hopefully one that hasnt started yet.
      "Tonight might be the night I make it, so lets live it up and don't regret it at all!"

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      • TNT713
        Banned
        • May 2004
        • 2043

        #4
        Re: Online League BS

        A mom might pat you on the head and give you a cookie and say those guys are playing too rough. A coach would critique your play objectively, make you run laps, and tell you how to tighten up your play.

        League play is NOT for people who play for fun - it's 100% serious business.I wouldn't say it's a garbage league, but it's obviously one that isn't fit for your brand of football as you play right now. Maybe you aren't ready. Maybe you are but you just needed to be kicked in the pants to jump start your competitive spirit.

        If your opponent had an answer for everything you were doing - you need to go back to the drawing board schematically, tighten up on your user skills, and break down your own technique.

        I recommend that you invest in a capture device to record your league games on film for review later when you can watch objectively. If your league is competitive, at least one of the other owners in your league is watching film.

        READ THIS: 10 Steps to Madden Bliss

        Next, stop looking at others to assign blame for your loss and start taking responsibility for your own performance. Otherwise, you'll pull out of your league to find some other league where the rules cater to players without any toughness...

        If you got into a league to have fun - you got in for the wrong reason. League play is more like the NFL than any other aspect of 1v1 online play. Ask yourself if the Colts (2-14) had fun getting their weaknesses exposed all year long... Probably not. But the NFL isn't a BS league anymore than the one you've joined.

        From your description, it sounds like you know exactly what beat you - DON'T TUCK TAIL AND RUN AWAY - work so it doesn't happen again against your next opponent.

        Later

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        • baseballsim
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 1279

          #5
          Re: Online League BS

          TNT713 is too funny. I'd like to see a poll and see how many really think league play is just business and not for fun.

          It sounds like the OP was facing an opponent who knew how to "game the game".
          Ballpark Dimensions

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          • TNT713
            Banned
            • May 2004
            • 2043

            #6
            Re: Online League BS

            Originally posted by baseballsim
            TNT713 is too funny. I'd like to see a poll and see how many really think league play is just business and not for fun.

            It sounds like the OP was facing an opponent who knew how to "game the game".
            bbsim,

            I have sponsored, hosted, and officiated more than a dozen professional caliber Madden tournaments since March 2008 and have awarded more than $7000 in cash prizes - so I've seen play at EVERY POSSIBLE LEVEL.

            As you may know, I play Madden seriously, but even I am NOT READY for many of the leagues and competitive events that are available (as evidenced by my dismal performance in the few leagues and tournaments I've participated in). But I am keenly aware of the many types of leagues out there due to a project I've undertaken since 2004 where I compare Madden league rules with NFL rules. I've literally reviewed HUNDREDS OF LEAGUES.

            That said, "Serious business" relates to an approach to the game as opposed to it actually being a money making endeavor. There's a HUGE difference between playing Madden for fun and playing it seriously.

            The NFL is a business with a businesslike approach to playing the game, but not every league requires a businesslike approach to be successful. There are many brands of leagues that are suited to players of various ages, sizes, and skill levels. There are even some Pop Warner type leagues that are well suited to beginning players that are all about the fun.

            Regarding whether his opponent was gaming the game or not really depends on how prepared individual players are for the type of play within the league they are in.

            Back to myself... Through years of research, I've developed a system to score a leagues "NFL-ness" with a percentage using about 40 points of comparison using items like substitutions, motion, 4th downs, etc. I won't participate in leagues that don't score at least 85% parallel to the NFL. That cutoff means I get THRASHED whenever I play in a league because I'm NOT READY. But it happens to everyone I've talked to who enters a highly skilled league...

            Unfortunately, our friend the OP is NOT in a beginner league so his "fun" will not materialize until his skills develop enough to compete on that level...

            Later

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            • Broncos86
              Orange and Blue!
              • May 2009
              • 5505

              #7
              Re: Online League BS

              This is part of the reason I don't play online. Some people take these online games as if they're a personal super bowl. I play Madden to enjoy football, not try to manipulate the wonkiness of Madden itself.

              Perfect example: Back in 1994, I played "NHLPA Hockey" on the SNES with some friends. We discovered that if you went behind the net on the bottom-screen goalie, he'd get stuck on the far post and you'd have a wide-open net. So we banned the use of that move because it was bogus hockey.

              In the past, I've banned myself from using money plays and lil' cheeses like the one I described because it's just not good football/hockey. If I went online and beat a guy 45 - 14, but it wasn't good football, I wouldn't feel good about the win.

              Other guys see it as a meta-game within football, and that's fine. BUT, that's no reason to lecture a guy just because he didn't have fun in a specific league. Tell him to find another league that fits his style, don't bolster yourself while talking down to people, TNT. We don't need the agenda.

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              • TMJOHNS18
                MVP
                • May 2011
                • 2586

                #8
                Re: Online League BS

                Originally posted by TNT713
                b

                Back to myself... Through years of research, I've developed a system to score a leagues "NFL-ness" with a percentage using about 40 points of comparison using items like substitutions, motion, 4th downs, etc. I won't participate in leagues that don't score at least 85% parallel to the NFL. That cutoff means I get THRASHED whenever I play in a league because I'm NOT READY. But it happens to everyone I've talked to who enters a highly skilled league...
                Got to that part before I finally cracked up.... come on man!

                BTW OP, the guy only rushed 2 on D the entire time? As long as you covered before getting hit you should have torn him up on the ground...
                Last edited by TMJOHNS18; 01-27-2012, 07:01 PM.

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                • TNT713
                  Banned
                  • May 2004
                  • 2043

                  #9
                  Re: Online League BS

                  Originally posted by TMJOHNS18
                  Got to that part before I finally cracked up.... come on man!

                  BTW OP, the guy only rushed 2 on D the entire time? As long as you covered before getting hit you should have torn him up on the ground...
                  Don't laugh.

                  The only reason you haven't heard of the system I use is because I haven't trademarked the name and process yet. It was the basis of a college paper I wrote in 2007 about how SIM leagues stack up the NFL.

                  Trust me, as soon as it's trademarked - I'll roll out the questionnaire and the system so that people like JJ04 can avoid getting in leagues that don't suit their style and skill level. Every league will get a % based on how close the rules are...

                  Later

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                  • TNT713
                    Banned
                    • May 2004
                    • 2043

                    #10
                    Re: Online League BS

                    Originally posted by Broncos86
                    Other guys see it as a meta-game within football, and that's fine. BUT, that's no reason to lecture a guy just because he didn't have fun in a specific league. Tell him to find another league that fits his style, don't bolster yourself while talking down to people, TNT. We don't need the agenda.
                    Sorry... I'm not the type to give a darn about feelings. I'm the guy that wants a former drill sergeant as a therapist. All of my relationships with males are based on competition of some sort. Simply put, if we don't compete, we aren't friends. That said, outside of competition I don't have much to do with people. If someone isn't driven by the competition - I don't want to talk to 'em.

                    I'm an *** like that.

                    Later

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                    • ANDROMADA 1
                      So long to a Legend.
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 5024

                      #11
                      Re: Online League BS

                      Originally posted by TNT713
                      Don't laugh.

                      The only reason you haven't heard of the system I use is because I haven't trademarked the name and process yet. It was the basis of a college paper I wrote in 2007 about how SIM leagues stack up the NFL.

                      Trust me, as soon as it's trademarked - I'll roll out the questionnaire and the system so that people like JJ04 can avoid getting in leagues that don't suit their style and skill level. Every league will get a % based on how close the rules are...

                      Later
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                      • johnnyskoods
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 145

                        #12
                        Re: Online League BS

                        Man, this TNT guy probably gets so many women.

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                        • oneamongthefence
                          Nothing to see here folks
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5683

                          #13
                          Re: Online League BS

                          I dunno. I haven't found a true exploit that had no counter in this years madden except for the qb sneak. Since defense is the most overlooked aspect of madden from both a game and philosophy point of view, people find it hard to find out why certain plays work. If they're gonna come out in I formation a lot. I would probably use a base Defense. Cover 4. Put everyone in a zone and user a safety to cover the RB. Take out their first read. It works for TE, Rb, and slot receivers. Its just a matter of taking away their most trusted option. They'll either change their play style or go into panic mode and force passes. Running I've found that cpu can actually make plays better than I can. But I'm def more agressive with tackling.
                          Because I live in van down by the river...

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                          • RynoAid
                            Tradition Football
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1109

                            #14
                            Re: Online League BS

                            Originally posted by TNT713

                            League play is NOT for people who play for fun - it's 100% serious business.I wouldn't say it's a garbage league, but it's obviously one that isn't fit for your brand of football as you play right now. Maybe you aren't ready. Maybe you are but you just needed to be kicked in the pants to jump start your competitive spirit.
                            this is the total opposite of everything my whole site and league stands for.. there are plenty of leagues out there that are community based with good solid guys who avoid the above mentalities at all cost.

                            Find the right fit for you, don't let anyone tell you how your "suppose" to play the game or how "serious" your supposed to take it.
                            Last edited by RynoAid; 01-28-2012, 01:28 PM.
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                            • TNT713
                              Banned
                              • May 2004
                              • 2043

                              #15
                              Re: Online League BS

                              Originally posted by RynoAid
                              this is the total opposite of everything my whole site and league stands for.. there are plenty of leagues out there that are community based with good solid guys who avoid the above mentalities at all cost.

                              Find the right fit for you, don't let anyone tell you how your "suppose" to play the game or how "serious" your supposed to take it.
                              Agreed... There are plenty of leagues with like minded owners enjoying the game. Sometimes, those leagues are deadly serious, other times they are all about having fun. I'm a fan of deadly serious leagues that are as close to the rules of the NFL as possible because those are the type that best fit my personality (my skill set is not quite up to par yet to adequately compete in those leagues though).

                              Nothing is worse than a deadly serious player ending up in a league that's meant to be fun for all - or a player seeking fun who winds up in a deadly serious league.

                              And if we can agree on nothing else, there aren't enough tools available for players looking to join a league to locate the best league for them. That's what I'm working to produce.

                              Later

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