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  • tnixen
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 3184

    #1

    TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

    After watching the gameplay videos that were released the other day I feel I can now give some opinions on what I think of the new updated Presentations so far.

    I really like what Sony has done with the Presentation this year compared to last year. I love the look of the new Stat Overlays and all the new camera cuts to the players are so cool! The statium sound is a lot more realistic then last year. It really sounds alive in the statium. Love that you hear more organ music playing and I LOVE the new Bat, Ball and Glove sounds. It really brings the statium to life.

    However as improved as the Presentations are in MLB 12 The Show I still feel it can be done even better and more like a real TV baseball broadcast does it.

    Some of the things that can be improved are for example.

    When a batter hits a Home Run in Season and Franchice Modes there should be a Stat Overlay " 19 Laynce Nix 15TH Home Run This Season" pop up on screen when the camera is still focused on the batter that just hit the Home Run! Currently you get a drop down box from the top scorebar with the Home Run info when the camera is already focused on the next batter at Home Plate. Have a look at the screen shot below for an example of what could be done in MLB 13 The Show. This Stat Overlay popup could either be shown when the batter is rounding the bases or when the batter is crossing Home Plate like in the screen shot below.

    Another improvment that needs to be made is in those videos I saw a few times where a batter hit a double and there was never any Stat Overlay showing how many doubles on the season it was for the batter. And at the sametime the announcers were to busy talking about something else and did not even once mention that the batter just hit a double or even a hit for that matter. That needs to be fixed! When a batter hits a Double, tripple, Home Run, Stolen Base I want to see a stat overlay and hear the announcers talk about it. And I am talking everytime not just at random times like it currently is.

    Watching those videos I also saw something that needs to be removed!

    A runner stole second base and when the next batter was at Home Plate a drop down menu displayed from the top scorebar saying something like "Angels Stolen Base (17)" and then right after that with the camera on the base stealer a Stat Overlay popped up with almost the same info. So what I would ask Sony is why do we need the Drop Down menu from the scorebar and the Stat overlay popup? I would much rather just have the Stat Overlay popup and remove the Drop Down Menu from the top scorebar! You don't need both. And the Stat Overlays with the camera on the player are so much more like what you see on a real TV broadcast and is all you need. In the future I would like to see Sony get rid of that Drop Down menu from the top Scorebar and just use the cool looking Stat Popup Overlays with the Camera on the players Heck you could even have a cool looking popup Overlay for the weather report aswell.

    Another thing that needs to be changed is the way the game begins when you first get to see the statium. Looking at the videos it looks almost just like it does in MLB 11 The Show. The camera view is basically the same and the onscreen displays look a little different but still looks and feels like basically last year. However I do like how the camera pans when they show the fielders at their positions. And while the starting linup display is some what new I still think it needs a lot more flash to the Presentation. Like for example have the announcer go though the whole linup and show a picture of the batter when his name is said. Maybe we could also see fans walking into the statium and buying food before the first pitch.

    Also I would like to see 3 dots for outs on the top scorebar instead of "1 Out". Small change but would make the game feel even more fresh to look at

    I also would like the Pitch Count always shown somewhere either on the top scorebar or even that box next to the batter that shows the MPH and pitch type and swing.

    And last I want to see stats like 1 for 2, 0 for 2 , 2 for 2 on the inbetween inning batter due up overlay under the batters photos.

    That just about sums up how I feel about the new Presentations in MLB 12 The Show. MLB 12 The Show looks like a really nice improvment over 11 but like I said there is still room for lots of improvment!

    I really hope Sony plans to build on what they have done with the Presentations in MLB 12 The Show in MLB 13 The Show too.

    If Sony can use all my feedback for MLB 13 The Show I would be so happy and greatfull and I am sure most of you would be too
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    Last edited by tnixen; 02-25-2012, 03:09 PM.
  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42557

    #2
    Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

    Sounds like you're mostly concerned with score bug and stat overlay issues. I'm sure many would agree and hope these are in.

    As far as that "Tru Broadcast" thing, I'm really hoping they apply it a little more in the sense of camera angles in later years. That is, there shouldn't be any camera angles (aside from the hitting cam) that wouldn't belong in a live MLB broadcast, particularly with regard to cutscenes and replays. They've done much better, but there are still weird ones.
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    • econoodle
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 4884

      #3
      Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

      Russell said in the CES interview its a big focal point going forward, so strap in.
      More to come in 13' and beyond.

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      • BlingBling19
        Pro
        • May 2010
        • 658

        #4
        Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

        As long as somewhere it puts up how many home runs a guy has after hitting one that's fine. It would also be cool to see each time a guy hits a double or triple see how many he has. I doubt the graphic will pop up every time a double or triple gets hit but it would be cool if it did.

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        • thaSLAB
          [Player 1]
          • Feb 2008
          • 4495

          #5
          tnixen, they are aware of some of those items, so you may be in luck. I brought up a few of those personally while I was there. And overall, these type of things are being focused on going forward. I even pushed for the "player to watch" presentation to make a return, even if the majority of players will X through it. Along with an in-game video recap (this may be limited by memory) and bullpen "look-ins"

          I even got them to fix the pitch type/speed not displaying on the scorebug when pitch callout and marker are set to off. Hopefully it went thru without breaking anything. Anyway, I think the future is looking even better.


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          • tnixen
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 3184

            #6
            Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

            Originally posted by thaSLAB
            tnixen, they are aware of some of those items, so you may be in luck. I brought up a few of those personally while I was there. And overall, these type of things are being focused on going forward. I even pushed for the "player to watch" presentation to make a return, even if the majority of players will X through it. Along with an in-game video recap (this may be limited by memory) and bullpen "look-ins"

            So i think the future is looking even better.


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            Thats all I wanted to hear

            Thanks!

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            • ab713
              Rookie
              • Dec 2002
              • 315

              #7
              Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

              I like the idea of having "real" cameras. Playing yesterday I saw something that bothered me for some reason.

              I hit a ball off the wall and the replay camera started out in the outfield, focused on the ball coming right at it. When the ball reached the camera, the camera just swung around on its axis to see where the ball landed.

              This bothered me because I saw the camera spin around, revealing itself as a "fake" camera hovering in open space above the outfield. It took away from the feel that I am watching through a "real" camera positioned somewhere in the stadium.

              I know it sounds dumb, but when talking about presentation, it's the little things that add up to a lot.

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              • Greene_Flash03
                MVP
                • Oct 2005
                • 2118

                #8
                Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                By removing the "Flash" transition/swipe would make a big difference IMO.

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                • Russell_SCEA
                  SCEA Community Manager
                  • May 2005
                  • 4161

                  #9
                  Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                  Originally posted by thaSLAB
                  tnixen, they are aware of some of those items, so you may be in luck. I brought up a few of those personally while I was there. And overall, these type of things are being focused on going forward. I even pushed for the "player to watch" presentation to make a return, even if the majority of players will X through it. Along with an in-game video recap (this may be limited by memory) and bullpen "look-ins"

                  I even got them to fix the pitch type/speed not displaying on the scorebug when pitch callout and marker are set to off. Hopefully it went thru without breaking anything. Anyway, I think the future is looking even better.


                  Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

                  Didn't make it when we changed it problems started and being that late in the cycle we had to change it back.

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                  • capa
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5321

                    #10
                    Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                    Not sure if this falls into the "broadcast" category, but I notice that the crowd seems way too active a lot of the time. They seem to be jumping or moving, raising arms, etc. way too often. I understand it if there is a rally going on or a big inning or something. But I've seen it even when there is 1 out, no one on, and 0-2 on the hitter.

                    Not a biggie at all...one of those nit things that would add to the realism if they toned it down a bit and made it more scenario specific.

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                    • sixmillion
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 140

                      #11
                      Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                      As for the cameras, the problem I see is that they don't seem organic enough, its like they are on a string attached to the ball so to speak. Do not give you the impression they are " manned " by a person. I think they need to add more of a static cam from behind home plate perhaps. For example when you hit a foul ball, you notice the camera is chasing the ball all the way to the wall as if the ball was towing the camera along. This is one of the worst cameras in the game because in baseball there are many foul balls and the camera is the same the last few years, to tell you the truth I am tired of looking at it. To fix this all we need is for the camera to stay stationary behing home plate.

                      Another example is when a camera focus on a player and the player moves somewhat , the camera moves just like it was attached to his body, You will notice this sometimes when the camera focus on a pitcher and the pitcher squats down and back up, the camera is bouncing up and down as if it is attached to his body. so to make it look more realistic looking and not robotic , the camera should remain stationary from a distance and then use zoom.

                      Another feature for the cameras is to add some " blur effect " to the background in some shots just to change things up a little. I think these additions will help the presentation immensley.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #12
                        Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                        Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                        Didn't make it when we changed it problems started and being that late in the cycle we had to change it back.
                        Appreciate the heads up. I still let out an "aww" though.
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                        • thaSLAB
                          [Player 1]
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4495

                          #13
                          Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          Didn't make it when we changed it problems started and being that late in the cycle we had to change it back.
                          *goes off to start a brand new rant thread*



                          No seriously, you know its all good to me either way, I checked my vitals and I don't seem to be dying because of it not being there. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it until I knew for sure... hopefully no actual rant threads start up over it. Then again, I might be the only person it bothered/noticed, LOL.

                          Originally posted by sixmillion
                          Another example is when a camera focus on a player and the player moves somewhat , the camera moves just like it was attached to his body, You will notice this sometimes when the camera focus on a pitcher and the pitcher squats down and back up, the camera is bouncing up and down as if it is attached to his body. so to make it look more realistic looking and not robotic , the camera should remain stationary from a distance and then use zoom.
                          This was one of my gripes about cameras too. IMO, the new TBP negates this for the most part, along with a lot of other camera quirks from previous versions. You may still see a few occurrences, but I think the effect is even a lot more subtle when you do see it. I think it is tied to camera angles that are cutscenes, and not real-time.
                          Last edited by thaSLAB; 02-23-2012, 06:25 PM.
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                          • metsfan4life1
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                            • Jan 2012
                            • 956

                            #14
                            Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                            Originally posted by capa
                            Not sure if this falls into the "broadcast" category, but I notice that the crowd seems way too active a lot of the time. They seem to be jumping or moving, raising arms, etc. way too often. I understand it if there is a rally going on or a big inning or something. But I've seen it even when there is 1 out, no one on, and 0-2 on the hitter.

                            Not a biggie at all...one of those nit things that would add to the realism if they toned it down a bit and made it more scenario specific.

                            C
                            I agree with this, the crowds are either way to dead or way to alive. When a strike is thrown, the crowd gets way too loud, when a ball is thrown, theres to much noticeable booing.. And most of the times, when you get the first out of a inning late in the game, the crowd is too silent, especially in big parts of the game. I hope they add something like real stadium atmosphere for the fans and crowd cheering and booing and all of that, i wanna a feel the crowd when I'm coming back in a game at home or when I'm pounding the opposition in their home ballpark, like a big rival(mets-Phillies) I want to hear a lot of booing. More natural chants and noises would be great!
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                            • bonannogiovanni
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 1339

                              #15
                              Re: TruBroadcast Presentations can still improve!

                              Also, may I add the animation of the fan reaching for the ball and tumbling plays out way too often.

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