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  • Majingir
    Moderator
    • Apr 2005
    • 47789

    #1

    2011 Dunk Contest?

    I'm sure everyone remembers the dunk contest last year with the main thing being Griffin jumping over a car, but I remember lots of people talking about how the NBA rigged the competition.

    Most notably with the statement being released(I think it was on nba.com) which listed Griffin as the contest winner BEFORE the contest even began.

    Based on what happened in the finals(dunk wise) Griffin did deserve to win.


    Ibaka: Ibaka jumped from the free throw line! And he only got a 45!(Should have been a 50!). His other dunk(grabbing the toy with his mouth and dunking the ball at the same time) did deserve a 45, so he should have finished with 95!

    McGee: He first dunked on two nets, that took multiple tries and he still finished with a 50. Then he dunked 3 balls at once, and it took multiple tries, and he finished with a 49!

    DeRozan: His first time WAS a 50(I think it was Kenny who said so) but it took him multiple tries to get it and he lost 1-2 points with the judges and that 50 dunk finished with a 44. He should have gotten 100 if they didn't care about his mess ups like they didn't care about everyone elses mess ups.

    Griffin: That 360 dunk did deserve a 50(though it only got a 49), but that 46 dunk he messed up so many times(I think he ended up changing what he was doing too) and that dunk not only took more tries, but it was worse than the dunk that gave DeRozan a 44. One judge gave DeRozan a 8 instead of a 9 like everyone else did, and one judge gave Griffin a 10 instead of a 9 like everyone else did.

    So how was the dunk contest NOT rigged. DeRozan penalized for taking a few attempts to hit a 50 dunk, but nobody else was penalized for the rest of the night. And Ibaka DIDN'T get a 50 on a dunk that had him jump from the free throw line.

    So if things were done fairly and nobody got penalized for missing dunk attempts, DeRozan(finish with 100) and McGee(finish with 99) would have been the two finalists and Griffin(finish with 96) and Ibaka(finish with 95) would be eliminated.
  • VDusen04
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 13034

    #2
    Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

    I seem to be in the minority in the respect that I don't believe the contest was fixed by any means. I'm saddened that it ended on such an anti-climatic note (the Kia dunk) but otherwise I was thoroughly entertained.

    I do believe players should be punished by misses. Dunks are not merely functions. And contest judging is not merely looking at a completed dunk in a vacuum and deciding what a dunk of that nature is worth. Style, improvisation, creativity, body language, element of surprise ... all play a role in great dunks. VC's contest in 2000 wouldn't have been nearly as impressive if each of his dunks took 2-4 attempts to put down. Therefore, as great as some dunks end up looking on the highlight reel when only the makes are shown, during an actual contest there can be a variable scale with which players might be punished for not finishing right away. Sometimes, the harm is minimal, as Griffin's from-the-hip helicopter 360 attempt brought everyone out of their seats and got them pumped up. Therefore, when he finally put down a cheaper version, people were still a little excited, hence the big score. It doesn't always work like that though.

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    • st0rmb11
      All Star
      • Nov 2008
      • 5167

      #3
      Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

      The only problems I had with last year were..a) Griffin even made the finals. and b) the hype around Griffin jumping "over the car". He jumped half way over the hood, grabbed the rim, and pulled himself over the rest of the way, and c) the fans voting. In this sense it was rigged. If you have Blake Griffin against 3 guys who most casual fans have never heard of, it's a given that the guy who is incredibly hyped is going to win.

      I'm sure I've said it on here before, but Griffin should have finished 4th in that contest.

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      • Champion8877
        MVP
        • Apr 2011
        • 1518

        #4
        Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

        In my completely biased opinion as a Thunder fan, Ibaka should have won last year hands down. but his name is not as big as Blakes, so Blake won

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        • vtcha
          MVP
          • Nov 2009
          • 2180

          #5
          Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

          whats even more ridiculous was the percentage of votes McGee received. It wasn't even close! Blake racked up 66% of the vote whilst McGee only collected 33% ...

          That itself shows that fan voting is a no-go.

          Personally I would really love to see the TNT cast as the judges (Chuck, Reggie Miller, Shaq, Ernie Johnson & Kenny Smith) as they usually get it right with their commentary. They should also allow judges to view the replay again before giving out their scores as they might have missed out on something (as seen with Dwight's sticker dunk).

          As for fan voting, fans should ONLY vote for players (from a pool) who they want to see participate in the contest.

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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47789

            #6
            Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

            Didn't they have Kobe,VC and some other people judging in one dunk contest? They should do that again. Have like Lebron,Kobe,Howard and others judging, so those guys will WANT to see something good, and might even give pointers to the participants competing.

            The dunk contest really missed the judges this year. And the finals missed the judges the past 2 years

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            • Colts18
              MVP
              • Feb 2010
              • 1959

              #7
              Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

              Ibaka had no business in the contest in the first place. Yea he can jump but it stops after that.

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              • VDusen04
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 13034

                #8
                Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

                Originally posted by Colts18
                Ibaka had no business in the contest in the first place. Yea he can jump but it stops after that.
                I thought he maximized his contest potential. He knew what he could and could not do. So, he jumped from further away than anyone in the history of the NBA dunk contest. I appreciate his presence for that slam alone.

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                • Vast
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 4015

                  #9
                  Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

                  Originally posted by VDusen04
                  I thought he maximized his contest potential. He knew what he could and could not do. So, he jumped from further away than anyone in the history of the NBA dunk contest. I appreciate his presence for that slam alone.
                  He definitely didn't dunk the furthest. That goes to Michael Jordan as evidenced here. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OD54eF2XKJA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                  "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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                  • VDusen04
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 13034

                    #10
                    Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

                    Originally posted by Vast
                    He definitely didn't dunk the furthest. That goes to Michael Jordan as evidenced here. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OD54eF2XKJA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                    I mean, I guess we could dispute whose middle toe was furthest, but Serge is right there with him:

                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CjQLccZlFns" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                    Though, generally speaking, it's always interesting to see how many folks remember only Jordan's Chicago free throw line dunk as opposed to the one in Indy and the other one in Seattle.

                    Further, always appreciated MJ knowing how to utilize a piece of tape, as opposed to this guy:

                    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fSC5m7AkbPg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                    Last edited by VDusen04; 02-29-2012, 10:47 PM.

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                    • PlusTheHarm
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 506

                      #11
                      Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

                      My thoughts; Ibaka jumped the line. WOW. But his little plush toy deal killed anything .. just like Kevin "the 'Radio' voice' Hart did.

                      Blake? Yeah, lame. Yawn, whatever. Of course it was rigged, look at the NBA sponsor? And this year? Think Kevin wasn'what t supposed to be reppin the drop out? He was. He had his TNT tie ins ...

                      Please, the dunk contest has been sad as hell for a hot minute. I almost think Dwight's stupid "Superman-throw-the-ball-in-the-hoop-from-5-feet-out-dunk" was what set this heinous ish up.

                      Uggh, the Kia was one thing .. but the motorcycle? Dunking on two hoops? Noooooooooooooo. People will, almost have, ruined this. Rehash if you have to, don't forget where you came from though. This is hoops, the NBA, last I checked this wasn't some clown comp. Get real.

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                      • DukeC
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 5751

                        #12
                        Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

                        I think McGee did some things only he was capable of. I don't mind the dunking on two goals or the dunking in 3 balls thing. Why? Because I didn't think it was possible.

                        That's what the dunk contest should be about IMO. Pulling off the seemingly impossible.

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                        • chameleontongue
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 6

                          #13
                          Re: 2011 Dunk Contest?

                          2012 dunk contest was improved from last yr's..

                          i did think Ibaka should have received better scores

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                          • PlusTheHarm
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 506

                            #14
                            Yeah Ibaka was good. I think I would take last years though, as crazy as the Kia thing was.

                            Baron poking his head out the sun roof was priceless.

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