2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

[theaub]

Hey everyone,

MLB Bob and I will be taking the Jays this year, and I wanted to throw out the feedback net for any opinions on the system this year. Obviously this is an incredibly deep system and as such will be one of the better ones to edit this year.

I have created a google doc that you can find HERE. As you can see, all it is right now is names and potential. As such, I would ask for the following

- opinions on the 90 man roster (are players in the right level? are obvious players being missed? should some prospects be replaced by others?)
- opinions on player potential
- opinions on specific player ratings/mannerisms etc
- opinions on lineups/rotations for all three rosters

Last year, I was able to edit and put up a Jays roster (before the game was even released somehow ) that was generally well received. While I don't think I'll be able to do it as promptly this year (and as such I am grateful that MLB Bob is assisting me), I hope that this year's Jays roster can be of the same quality.

So yeah..thanks and feedback away please.

EDIT: Also if we want to make this a general Blue Jay edit thread I am down for that.

[BJays1984]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

It's nice to see some Blue Jay love on here. I thought the Jays might go unclaimed this year. I won't add much in terms of rating prospects but I have made some good edits in the past in terms of tweaking MLB player pitch types, batting stances, etc. I find that the default pitch types are rarely correct. I guess you can't do much until the game is released but I would love others feedback and opinions once it is.

The spreadsheet looks fairly accurate. I think McCoy might win the MLB job over Vizquel. McCoy is a much better option as a pinch runner and he can play any position on the field.

p.s. I hope Bautista has that incredible 1-handed follow through on all hits shown on the trailer video.

[Jays20593]

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Just my opinion on some prospects potential,

David Cooper: C/D - I don't see him getting much better
Kyle Drabek: A/B - stuff is there, just needs to learn control & discipline
Carreno:B - very impressive in callup last year

looks good so far.

[MLB Bob]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

Just my opinion on some prospects potential,

David Cooper: C/D - I don't see him getting much better
Kyle Drabek: A/B - stuff is there, just needs to learn control & discipline
Carreno:B - very impressive in callup last year

looks good so far.

Not to hamper your ideas but all those players should already be in the game so their potential will not be editable..it will only be the created players that we can create with specific potentials. I do however agree on your assessments.

[MLB Bob]

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Just a note, I'm super high on Jake marisnick

[MLB Bob]

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With help from various sites I put together (added on) to create a list of Jays prospects that were ranked by all the different publications. Im going to organize and share as soon as I can, but it should help in ranking as the info I already saw certian prospects are not ranked any lower than certian points by all lists and some lists rank guys that arent on other so it gives a good example of who to include and possible upside.....if anyones interested.

[theaub]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

With help from various sites I put together (added on) to create a list of Jays prospects that were ranked by all the different publications. Im going to organize and share as soon as I can, but it should help in ranking as the info I already saw certian prospects are not ranked any lower than certian points by all lists and some lists rank guys that arent on other so it gives a good example of who to include and possible upside.....if anyones interested.

If you'd like to send it to me I can include it in the Google Doc. I feel like some guys like Nicolino etc are going to need to be added to the roster.

[Factzzz]

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Noah Syndergaard should have A potential, he's gonna be a future ace, like Roy Halladay.

[theaub]

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File has been updated with some more info (years away, general info) and also the pitch repertoires for some of the higher end pitching prospects. If anyone has more pitch info let me know please.

[MLB Bob]

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Noah Syndergaard should have A potential, he's gonna be a future ace, like Roy Halladay.

I think thats being extremely generous. He may end up being a top #1 or #2 but Halladay is maybe one of the best pitchers in his generation, I dont think you can say that about Syndergaard yet. In this game he may be an A because of potential and upside and how that works but I have a hard time saying someone is going to be like Roy Halladay.

[Talbert]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

Hey everything looks pretty good as far as player potentials go. I think you should tweek the years away on some of the players tho. Daniel Norris for example at 6 years seem rather long. I suggest maybe making the higher potential players a year or 2 closer as they're more likely than not to climb through the minors quickly

[edwing]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

Hey everything looks pretty good as far as player potentials go. I think you should tweek the years away on some of the players tho. Daniel Norris for example at 6 years seem rather long. I suggest maybe making the higher potential players a year or 2 closer as they're more likely than not to climb through the minors quickly

According to Knight in the main OSFM thread, the years away trait should be how many years away from the player's peak, not from making the majors. So they are fine in that regard. Some of them might even be a bit too low considering that fact.

[Majingir]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

In the MLB top 100 prospects list(from baseball america), these Jays made it:
d'Arnaud(17th)
Gose(39th)
Marisnick(67th)
Norris(91st)



(nvm,saw that they all had A level potentials already)

[Ike Slider2]

Re: 2012 OSFM: Toronto Blue Jays

Nice on the potentials! One comment I have is when I saw Marisnick play (I watched a few of his games in person) it seemed as if his reactions to the ball let him down more than his glove. Might consider switching those two ratings.

[MLB Bob]

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I like the potentials, but if Marisnick is an A, which I agree, Gose is an A. He has the potential. And right now he has 3 tools that are tops in baseball (speed, Arm, Defense...no one can really match those and they are legit and he has those tools now) just a thought.