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  • dre1919
    Rookie
    • Jun 2004
    • 55

    #1

    Running with the QB...

    I have a "scrambling" QB with 87 speed and an 81 acceleration, so you wouldn't think that running would be all that hard. However, when I scramble out of a pass play it's a toss up whether he gets yards or gets hammered. Worse yet, on options and QB runs he usually nets about 2.8 yards per carry. What's up with that? I'm playing on a PS3 with the difficulty set at AA. I realize one thing that doesn't help is EA removing the handy "pull the passing icons down" button they used to have, because without it, your QB is running virtually in slow motion until he crosses the LOS. Is there a better way to gain rushing yardage as a QB? I am running my own playbook, a much more efficient (I like to think so anyway) and creative version of Notre Dame's spread. Any thoughts on this subject are appreciated!
  • gator3guy
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 2233

    #2
    Re: Running with the QB...

    do you use the sprint button?

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    • IlluminatusUIUC
      MVP
      • Jan 2010
      • 2679

      #3
      Re: Running with the QB...

      It seems like running QBs were nerfed this year. Even burners like Darron Thomas accelerate like they are knee-deep in mud.
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      • gatek99
        Rookie
        • Jan 2011
        • 58

        #4
        Re: Running with the QB...

        It doesn't help that on passing plays, your qb has to do the exact drop then get set before you can even attempt to run around...so annoying

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        • blkrptnt819
          MVP
          • Feb 2011
          • 2055

          #5
          Originally posted by gatek99
          It doesn't help that on passing plays, your qb has to do the exact drop then get set before you can even attempt to run around...so annoying
          This part doesn't bother me until I see a corner blitz and I can't do anything about it.
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          • DorianDonP
            MVP
            • May 2010
            • 1121

            #6
            Re: Running with the QB...

            It sounds like you aren't using the sprint button. I think it's R2 (havent played the game in months lol).

            One annoying thing I never quite figured out was when you crossed the LOS with the QB and he would temporarily slow down (and do this weird truck animation).

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            • dre1919
              Rookie
              • Jun 2004
              • 55

              #7
              Re: Running with the QB...

              Originally posted by gator3guy
              do you use the sprint button?
              Yeah, but it doesn't seem to help all that much. Perhaps it's just the coverage? I mean, I know the "slow mo till past the LOS" doesn't help...but I would think he'd do better. In some cases he'll break free and bust out a 15 yard gain or something...I guess I just figure it would happen a lot more often against the CPU. It definitely isn't like it used to be.

              (Back when I could make Carlyle Holiday from Notre Dame the second coming of Mike Vick. LOL.)

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              • MathisJones
                Rookie
                • Jul 2011
                • 85

                #8
                Re: Running with the QB...

                I have a QB who could've switched to WR successfully (best spin move on the team, best agility, good hands, etc) & I have no problem with getting yards with him. He gets sacked a lot because I think I can get out of more than I should, but I averaged like 7 or 8 yards an attempt when he was a back up & about 4 the first year as a starter.

                The trick is to not try to outrun defensive ends to the outside. If the pocket breaks, use it to your advantage & run UPFIELD, not side-to-side. Wide Receivers will block for you & you could break some big runs. I had a 90 yarder against LSU in the National Championship game.
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                • Bucknut17
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 340

                  #9
                  Re: Running with the QB...

                  Originally posted by MathisJones
                  I have a QB who could've switched to WR successfully (best spin move on the team, best agility, good hands, etc) & I have no problem with getting yards with him. He gets sacked a lot because I think I can get out of more than I should, but I averaged like 7 or 8 yards an attempt when he was a back up & about 4 the first year as a starter.

                  The trick is to not try to outrun defensive ends to the outside. If the pocket breaks, use it to your advantage & run UPFIELD, not side-to-side. Wide Receivers will block for you & you could break some big runs. I had a 90 yarder against LSU in the National Championship game.
                  This. With mid to upper 80 speed and low 80 accel you are rarely going to beat a de or lb to the corner, even with a 90/90 qb its rare to get the corner but if you read the dline and slip through back up the middle you can run for days, make a backer or safety miss and its 7. The speed option out of the gun is basically useless and most of the time I don't even try to make the read and pitch, its get north and south and try to hit a cut back lane. I've had much more success with the read option (especially formations where the rb is set deeper than the qb) and the qb power ( don't use Sprint till the hole opens) just finished a season with a 1000 yd rusher/2500 yard passer at qb and that included taking to many sacks trying to make something happen

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                  • SalvArmyMatt
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 133

                    #10
                    Re: Running with the QB...

                    Agreed with the two above. If you bootleg to the edge, you're done. You gotta drop back and then scramble up the middle and then try to cut to the edge.
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                    • dre1919
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 55

                      #11
                      Re: Running with the QB...

                      Thanks guys! I tried out the tips and had much better results running this evening. I think I had 12 carries for 69 yards or something like that. What I was doing wrong was almost always bootlegging to the outside right or left and running into a DE, OLB or CB every time. I was thinking with the speed and athleticism they wouldn't pose as big of a threat, but they are a near lock to always get you. But, up the middle, like you all mentioned they react far less quickly. Plus, as the gentleman above mentioned, the WR's do actually block for you! I sprang a 15 yard run with the help of a good inside block from my slot receiver. Once again, thanks for the helpful tips on the subject!

                      dre

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                      • therealslimshady
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 236

                        #12
                        Re: Running with the QB...

                        Whenever I run with my qb he turns a deep purple and has 0 energy left. He then cannot throw a pass to save his life haha and this is after a 5 yard run for my life out of bounds.

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                        • Custon 89
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 60

                          #13
                          Re: Running with the QB...

                          Originally posted by therealslimshady
                          Whenever I run with my qb he turns a deep purple and has 0 energy left. He then cannot throw a pass to save his life haha and this is after a 5 yard run for my life out of bounds.
                          Same here.(i think I'm using SEC's sliders) players with low stamina(85 or lower) get tired quickly especially after breaking tackles.

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                          • dre1919
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 55

                            #14
                            Re: Running with the QB...

                            I'm guessing there is no "slide" button for the QB anymore (I haven't found one at least). Good to see the CPU's QB can take off and run, then slide for safety but our USER QB's gotta take a beating and potentially cough up the football.

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                            • JerzeyReign
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 4847

                              #15
                              Re: Running with the QB...

                              Originally posted by dre1919
                              I'm guessing there is no "slide" button for the QB anymore (I haven't found one at least). Good to see the CPU's QB can take off and run, then slide for safety but our USER QB's gotta take a beating and potentially cough up the football.
                              To slide, tap square before tackle animation is engaged on PS3 or tap X on the 360. If you hold it, they will dive.
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