How to stop players from retiring so early

[marlonbrando13]

Ok so I play franchise mode w/w the yankee. No matter how well arod and jeter do every year they retire. Its ridiculous ice tried trading them fir a day or two. I never draft or trade for their replacements. I get pettite and Rivera but these twobare obv not calling it quits in 2012. Any suggestions?

[marlonbrando13]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

come on someone must know something to fix or influence it..

[juicer420]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

Save before you start the offseason and keep reloading it until they don't retire...

[djo201]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

Save before you start the offseason and keep reloading it until they don't retire...

I believe this won't help as the retirees change depending on the June draft. Once the draft is done, retirees are "locked in" and will not change even if you simulate a couple of times.

What most do is save before the June draft, proceed with it, either manually or simulated, and create a new save. After this proceed to sim to the offseason and review the retirements. If you like what you see you can keep the latest save and continue with your season. If not, redo the draft, overwrite the newest save, etc.

This is how it worked on previous years and I'm not sure if it remains the same for 12, but it's worth testing.

[MetalBeldo]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

I signed Aaron Rowand and he had a career year, then retired due to age after the first season.

[Chuck_D84]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

Any idea what influences the retirees? I've tried this, but no matter what I do, Mariano Rivera retires, Joe Nathan retires, Alfonso Soriano retires. A-Rod and Jeter retire half the time. I've tried about 10 times, but those 3 retire every time. Any idea how to fix it? Change position? Tried it. Trade to another team for the draft? Tried it. Skip all draft selections. Tried it. I'm out of ideas.

[G3no_11]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

I believe this won't help as the retirees change depending on the June draft. Once the draft is done, retirees are "locked in" and will not change even if you simulate a couple of times.

In my RTTS there will be different retiree's if I reload, regardless of what happens in the June draft. I'm not sure about past years games so you may be right about that. This year must be different.

One time Rafael Betancourt and Jose Bautista retired. I tried again and they played the next year.

I think it's really just luck. I would keep reloading your franchise until those players don't retire.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

Any idea what influences the retirees? I've tried this, but no matter what I do, Mariano Rivera retires, Joe Nathan retires, Alfonso Soriano retires. A-Rod and Jeter retire half the time. I've tried about 10 times, but those 3 retire every time. Any idea how to fix it? Change position? Tried it. Trade to another team for the draft? Tried it. Skip all draft selections. Tried it. I'm out of ideas.

We look at the median age of players per position and when they retire in real life. That's the logic that governs when they hang up the cleats stats have nothing to do with it.

Jeter and Rivera are all over the avg. age of when MLB players retire in real life so that's why they will consistently hang it up in the first year of a franchise.

[Chuck_D84]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

We look at the median age of players per position and when they retire in real life. That's the logic that governs when they hang up the cleats stats have nothing to do with it.

Jeter and Rivera are all over the avg. age of when MLB players retire in real life so that's why they will consistently hang it up in the first year of a franchise.

Ok, so is there something I could do then? It seems changing the team doesn't matter, but what if I change that player's position prior to the draft to a position that has a higher median age? Would that work? What if I changed all of the positions so that player doesn;t have a younger player to replace him? Would that affect the logic?

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

Ok, so is there something I could do then? It seems changing the team doesn't matter, but what if I change that player's position prior to the draft to a position that has a higher median age? Would that work? What if I changed all of the positions so that player doesn;t have a younger player to replace him? Would that affect the logic?

That won't have any effect at all because the median age for baseball players to retire is between 1-3 years of each other per position.

[Frank is the Tank]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

The main reason that you can have those players that could still play well for their age and retire is mainly based on the players potential that is younger or in the MiLB. They do this so players can "hand off" the starting role to younger, and more deserving players. Similar to what would happen in real life, but I don't think it's realistic for players like Paul Konerko to retire at 35...

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

The average age for retirement of a mlb player is 32. Of course there are exceptions, but I like the logic the way it is. Only thing I would like to see is players in contract should not retire until there contract expires.

http://www.chacha.com/question/what-...ent-of-the-mlb

[Chuck_D84]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

The main reason that you can have those players that could still play well for their age and retire is mainly based on the players potential that is younger or in the MiLB. They do this so players can "hand off" the starting role to younger, and more deserving players. Similar to what would happen in real life, but I don't think it's realistic for players like Paul Konerko to retire at 35...

Now when you say that, it makes me wonder if I changed all of the younger players of the same position to something else, it would allow the older player to stay since there is no one to "hand-off" to.

[Chuck_D84]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

The average age for retirement of a mlb player is 32. Of course there are exceptions, but I like the logic the way it is. Only thing I would like to see is players in contract should not retire until there contract expires.

http://www.chacha.com/question/what-...ent-of-the-mlb

Yes, I would like that as well, or at least let your edit the age at the draft, then change it back after. That's how I got Pettitte to not retire, since he was technically a created player.

[nomo17k]

Re: How to stop players from retiring so early

I think the reason why people often feel disappointed that some players retire earlier that they think they should in the game is because some elite players (like Jeter and Mariano) do tend to play much longer than average ones whose name you don't even care to remember. Of course the primary reason is that elite players do tend to have a lot more to offer even when their skills are declining, they can keep playing purely because they remain better players than their competitions. And because of that they tend to enjoy long-term contracts as well....

The average retirement age can be misleading, since that would include all players, both one-year wonders as well star players. I think the average years spent at MLB level is slightly less than 6 years these days (which I believe is the reason MLB is using the year for free agency), but median is more like 4 years I believe. That's because many, many young players actually only play 1 or 2 years at the MLB level and vanish into obscurity. If we count them into the calculation, the average gets dragged to a younger age, which 32 y.o. likely represents.

So if you only look at how long seasoned veterans actually play, I wouldn't be surprised it comes out slightly older than 32. (no, I haven't calculated this myself to save me from earning yet another nerd reputation.)