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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #1

    "All Star" veterans of The Show.

    How many of you guys on here play on default All-Star despite being a seasoned veteran of The Show?

    I've played this game since MLB 08: The Show and have never really liked anything above the All-Star difficulty level. It seems to me that if I put it on Hall of Fame I can win games but I rarely get realistic numbers, especially with pitching since I never strike out more than one or two.

    My only problem with the All-Star difficulty level is that it seems like every game is 3-2, or 2-1. Are you guys ever seeing 10-8, 12-6 type games on All-Star default? I just feel like this should happen every now and again even if you are good at the game. I'm good, not great, but I seem to win too often on All-Star. I play about 1 out of every 5 games (and simulate the rest) but I'm actually wanting to lose more often when I do play. I think I've won the last 6 and have kept the CPU to 1 or 2 runs in doing so. But I'm giving up realistic numbers of hits. I'd just like to see higher scoring games every now and again.
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  • Heroesandvillains
    MVP
    • May 2009
    • 5974

    #2
    Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

    I am.

    HOF and Legend every year prior. This year, it's AS Default.

    I've seen plenty of blowouts.

    11-2 W
    11-1 W
    9-2 L
    12-1 L
    11-3 W
    9-1 W

    And on and on. And I'm only 38 games in.

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42555

      #3
      Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

      I play All-Star, but do a lot of slider and option tweaks. I think under the hood it will still play differently than defaulting on Hall of Fame and doing the same tweaks, though. Anyway, I will get a good variation of scores with those changes.

      Which reminds me, I still have yet to post my slider set...
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      • Gagnon39
        Windy City Sports Fan
        • Mar 2003
        • 8544

        #4
        Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

        Every year I try not to make slider adjustments, but every year I seem to eventually succumb to it. The worst I've lost this year so far is 6-0 to the Cardinals. I also lost 7-1 to the Brewers but I've yet to see a 10-run game on either side.

        I just simply like to know that its possible. As silly as it might sound it gives me some sense of peace of mind in that the mode/level I'm playing will garner realistic stats and results. I actually like (every once in a while) to get blown out but I don't like for it to happen when it just feels cheap, and that's how I feel Hall of Fame plays. I know there's not code or actually "cheating" going on, but I just cannot strike anyone out, at least not with realistic totals.

        Good to see other people are good at this game and still play on All-Star.
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        • Bobhead
          Pro
          • Mar 2011
          • 4926

          #5
          Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

          I bat on Hall of Fame, but pitch on All Star.

          I'm with you I can't pitch on Hall of Fame and get realistic numbers either. Strikeouts are hard enough on All Star as it is, especially with Analog Pitching.

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          • DJ
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2003
            • 17756

            #6
            Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

            All-Star for me. The only sliders I typically mess with are the CPU Pitch sliders, just to get them to throw more balls.

            The Power slider is something I keep an eye on; last year I lowered it -1 for both HUM and CPU and it worked out great.

            I'm using Armor & Sword's All-Star set this year and getting good results.
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            • LowerWolf
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2006
              • 12282

              #7
              Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

              I played All-Star every year through last year. Late last season I grew frustrated enough that I dropped to Veteran. Playing Veteran with Timing/Classic pitching this year, and it's been perfect for me.

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              • Heroesandvillains
                MVP
                • May 2009
                • 5974

                #8
                Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

                In all fairness, I did play around 20-30 games using Pulse on Default AS and wasn't blown out by the CPU once until I started to drop Consistency (my numbers above are from using Classic).

                Ultimately, I switched to Classic and THAT'S when the game variety really started to show itself.

                I'm not implying that the results I posted above are not possible using the other interfaces (as I'm sure it is), I'm just saying it did not happen to me regarding the CPU blowing me out (in limited games with Pulse, UNTIL I dropped the Consistency slider).

                My results were by no means scientific using Pulse, but Classic is giving me the games I think you started the thread for. But that also depends a lot on you an how good your non-Classic pitching interface skills are.
                Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-29-2012, 10:31 PM.

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                • Gagnon39
                  Windy City Sports Fan
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 8544

                  #9
                  Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

                  I was going to make a new post on here but I figure it better to just ask here if anyone knows.

                  What exactly changes when you change the difficulty level? When you go from All-Star (what the game calls "moderate" in difficulty) to Hall of Fame (hard), what exactly happens?

                  I'd really like to know this. As it will determine what level I stay on. I always like to play sports games where neither myself or the CPU has any advantage whatsoever. Sometimes, however, that is not possible if the AI is too poor.
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                  • Bobhead
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4926

                    #10
                    Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

                    For batting: the complexity of the pitching strategy, and your overall contact ability (akin to a drop in the contact slider, although I couldn't tell you how much). You can change the level and see the difference in your susceptibility to being off-timing. Set it to zone and you will definitively see differences in PCI size.

                    I think the pitchers consistency increases with each level also, because I jump between AS and HoF (in hitting) all the time and I have to move the CPU pitcher consistency slider as I do. Pitch Speed changes also, and that part is confirmed by a dev.
                    Edit: To elaborate on the consistency thing, I'm just saying you'll see more meatballs, wild pitches, etc... On lower difficulties.

                    For pitching: the ability of the AI to recognize pitching patterns changes... On rookie they might be fooled by constant fastballs, veteran, maybe they'd pick up on a continuous alternation between a fastball and a change up... And so on...
                    Also the CPUs overall contact ability.

                    Typed from a phone, apologies if there is some grammatical or stylistic errors in there somewhere...
                    Last edited by Bobhead; 04-29-2012, 11:53 PM.

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                    • Flightwhite24
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 12095

                      #11
                      I started out on AS but after 8 games and hardly any offense I dropped down to Veteran and couldn't be more happy.


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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #12
                        Re: "All Star" veterans of The Show.

                        Thumbs up for AS default.
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                        • liftheavy
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1040

                          #13
                          Re: &quot;All Star&quot; veterans of The Show.

                          All star equals normal difficulty ...though I haven't played in nearly three weeks it seems that all star plays pretty evenly.

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                          • Gagnon39
                            Windy City Sports Fan
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8544

                            #14
                            Re: &quot;All Star&quot; veterans of The Show.

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            Thumbs up for AS default.
                            Wow. Really? That's good to hear. I know you're a seasoned vet of the game so that makes me feel good.

                            Are you seeing varied scores? What are some examples?
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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #15
                              Re: &quot;All Star&quot; veterans of The Show.

                              Originally posted by Gagnon39
                              Wow. Really? That's good to hear. I know you're a seasoned vet of the game so that makes me feel good.

                              Are you seeing varied scores? What are some examples?
                              I'm not Pared, but I'll add another one:

                              Yanks (me) beat Toronto 8-2. The best part was how it happened.

                              I finished the game with 8 runs and 10 hits, but all 8 runs and 9 of my 10 hits occured in the top of the 4th inning!!!! Never had an inning quite like that before. Meaning, not one where I was essentially no-hit during the other 8!

                              Gagnon, I'm seeing lopsided boxscores almost as equally as I'm seeing one or two run games. It's so awesome!!

                              Default AS (Fielding Errors 6, SB Frequency 7). Timing/Classic/Auto Fielding.

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