MLB 12 The Show: Pulse Pitching Vs Pure Analog

[BPBlues]

Play mostly in RTTS, and mostly as a pitcher.

I loved last year's Pure Analog pitching and hitting.

But when 12 came along, I just stuck with the defaults. With Pulse Pitching, I get about 2-5 strikeouts per game, unless I get very lucky. Most ever is 11 KOs.

So I decide to finally go back to Pure Analog, and BOOM. Look what I've been missing ... feels more like pitching and I get 1 or 2 KOs per inning, which is what I used to be able to do with the game on default settings.

Here's what I notice: when there is error in the Pulse Pitching mechanic, things often go haywire and the ball rises on me or floats away from where I wanted to go. With Pure Analog, everything goes just swell ... my error tends to be error in the direction I wanted.

Just a head's up ... for those of you who haven't switched back to Pure Analog ... it's great. The Pule Pitching seems like it'd be more relaxing and easy, but it's really not, simple as that. Less like pitching, and error that doesn't go in the direction I wanted it to.

[PowerofRed25]

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1-2 strikeouts per inning and making no mistakes? That doesn't seem all that realistic. Errors aren't supposed to go where you want them, that's why they are errors. I get plenty of K's in pulse pitching, as much as I would expect to get. I've K'ed 8 in a 5 inning relief appearance with Alexei Ogando, I've had innings where I K'ed the side. In RTTS I've had 9 and 10 K starts, I usually have 4 or 5 per game, 0-1 walks. My K/9 rating is right at 70 so that seems to be about average for my ratings. I do give up a lot of homers, but I throw a ton of strikes.

If it feels better, that's one thing. But K'ing 1-2 an inning and making "perfect errors" seems like it just made the game easier for you.

[UK0wnag3]

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I might sound like an old man when I say this, but I just couldn't use Pulse Pitching. Watching that orb rotate and shrink gave me a headache and then if it was out of sync with my breathing I'd have to stop and try again and it took me up to 20 minutes per-at-bat if I was having a bad day. I definitely prefer Pure Analog. I think my background as a former 2K guy makes it feel more natural. I also like the fact that if I don't nail the motion, I quite often leave it over the plate because I didn't get the direction, not because I didn't make a circle small enough.

[Based Doc]

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I might sound like an old man when I say this, but I just couldn't use Pulse Pitching. Watching that orb rotate and shrink gave me a headache and then if it was out of sync with my breathing I'd have to stop and try again and it took me up to 20 minutes per-at-bat if I was having a bad day. I definitely prefer Pure Analog. I think my background as a former 2K guy makes it feel more natural. I also like the fact that if I don't nail the motion, I quite often leave it over the plate because I didn't get the direction, not because I didn't make a circle small enough.

Same here. Everyone was posting about how easy Pulse pitching was on release but I couldn't use it at all. Pure Analog works much much better for me.

I found myself bobbing my head with the pulse to try and get it correct but it never worked. And I'm 22 so no old man syndrome here.

[Metsaholic230]

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I can't get the pulse pitching to work for me at all. It's WAY to stressful trying to time it. Maybe I'm just getting too old? I like the analog pitching, but I've played like 20+ games and never hit a batter. Seems a bit unlikely? No matter how bad I screw it up it's never enough to plunk someone. I think I might try the classic pitching with no ball marker.

That's the greatest thing about this game.They give you a billion options and let you set it up the way you want. A lot of games would toss in the new feature and toss the rest. Takes me a while to find all the settings I like, but once I do it's pure heaven.

[js3512]

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Interesting thread... I myself am torn between the two. I love analog because it feels like pitching and like you're in control but the problem is that I'm in too much control. When I do miss it seems like it's always right over the plate and I never ever walk a guy. On the other hand, with pulse pitching the results seem far more accurate with 2-5 walks per game and the realistic sense that the balls just not always gonna go exactly where I want it to go but pressing a button doesn't feel like I'm engaged in the pitching battle at all though as the cpu is doing the actual windup, pitch and follow through afterwards. I'd love to see pulse and analog somehow incorporated together next year as a new option.

[miniviking10]

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I've used Pulse Pitching since I got the game Day 1, and I've liked using it since. The analog pitching from 11 really frustrated me. Pulse Pitching is pretty simple to use but it's still difficult to master. I get realistic K's per game depending on the pitcher.

[tlobster12]

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I love using pulse because I suck at analog pitching. I walk like 8 guys with analog so I decided to go back to pulse. In 11 I was OK with it but this year it seems harder.

[pokerplaya]

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Well, I'm about to scrap my franchise after 14 games because I have only walked 9 hitters and I know at least 2 were IBB's. Mind you, I am starting a franchise that I'm going to commit to for like four years (Every pitch for 10 years) so its important to me to get it right.

I wanted to use Pulse, but I guess if I want to, I have to try on Legend. I'm an All-Star caliber player, I actually have a losing record with the Tigers through those 14 games, but only walking 9 hitters? Not realistic. ERA of low 3's... granted small-sample size but 9 walks? Almost 3 full turns through the rotation...

Classic just feels wrong to me. I started another game with it last night, but the ball doesn't go anywhere near where you aim it. Sure, I can handle it if the guy makes a "mistake" but Verlander was consistently 2 feet off his target on all pitches. I'd aim low and away, it'd be up and in. Nothing was going where I wanted it.

I never wanted to look at sliders for this game, because it felt pretty good out of the box. Now, after seeing some stats, I just don't think it feels right.

EDIT: for the record, my strikeout rates were fine. I just don't walk hardly anyone. (All-Star/Pulse/Consistency 4)

[Heroesandvillains]

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Well, I'm about to scrap my franchise after 14 games because I have only walked 9 hitters and I know at least 2 were IBB's. Mind you, I am starting a franchise that I'm going to commit to for like four years (Every pitch for 10 years) so its important to me to get it right.

I wanted to use Pulse, but I guess if I want to, I have to try on Legend. I'm an All-Star caliber player, I actually have a losing record with the Tigers through those 14 games, but only walking 9 hitters? Not realistic. ERA of low 3's... granted small-sample size but 9 walks? Almost 3 full turns through the rotation...

Classic just feels wrong to me. I started another game with it last night, but the ball doesn't go anywhere near where you aim it. Sure, I can handle it if the guy makes a "mistake" but Verlander was consistently 2 feet off his target on all pitches. I'd aim low and away, it'd be up and in. Nothing was going where I wanted it.

I never wanted to look at sliders for this game, because it felt pretty good out of the box. Now, after seeing some stats, I just don't think it feels right.

EDIT: for the record, my strikeout rates were fine. I just don't walk hardly anyone. (All-Star/Pulse/Consistency 4)

What happens when you drop Consistency to 2 or 3?

I tried 4, and though it was better, it was not enough.

Oh, and try turning OFF the pitching ball marker. That will also help. When I used Pulse, I had to turn this off too.

Or...you could try HOF. Good luck.

If you want some Classic tips, check out the thread over in the sliders area. I have some lengthy tips and tid-bits in there. You can definitely minimize it's wildness (to a degree).

[pokerplaya]

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What happens when you drop Consistency to 2 or 3?

I tried 4, and though it was better, it was not enough.

Oh, and try turning OFF the pitching ball marker. That will also help. When I used Pulse, I had to turn this off too.

See, if the way I'm reading the slider is correct, all consistency is really going to affect is wild pitches and the like. I dropped it to 3 for a couple of test games outside of franchise and noticed zero difference. I was thinking of messing with control...

Or, I may just start over and go strict Timing/Meter... Then, I can always adjust the meter speed as I improve, and I know I'll walk people. Classic just feels wrong to me...Yeah, I'm sure I'll walk people, but when I'm not even close to locating with a reigning MVP on multiple occasions, you shake your head.

Ball marker doesn't matter to me... I had it set off for all my DD games just to level the field... just as comfortable with it on or off...

[pokerplaya]

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I honestly feel its just me... I don't miss my pulse enough to matter on AS... sure, I do throw balls and pitch counts are great -- but I never feel like I'm going to walk anyone unless I choose to -- because I've got a base open and don't really feel like pitching to Josh Hamilton and would rather toss to Beltre instead...

EDIT: I'm not pissed about starting over either. A 14 game test run in which I had a ton of fun and learned a ton about this game does not irritate me in the slightest. I just want to get it right to where I'm not constantly tweaking over 10 years of franchise.

[Heroesandvillains]

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See, if the way I'm reading the slider is correct, all consistency is really going to affect is wild pitches and the like

This is not true, to the extent that it ONLY impacts wild pitches.

I'm not saying even zeroing it out will be enoug for you on AS, I'm just pointing out that your understanding of the slider isn't exactly accurate.

Without going into way too much detail, essentially, Consistency will impact the reliability of your pitches, how far away from your target you miss, and how quickly the pulse will pulsate.

Walks will increase by reducing Consistency. The question is: will it be enough?

HOF may be a decent suit for you.

Control will essentially be (in VERY basic terms) your meatball slider. Basically, lowering this will increase CPU BA and will force you to nibble more in order to succeed. Nibbling will lead to BB's.

Perhaps there's a happy medium for Control and Consistency for you on AS. You just need to mess around.

If you don't feel like slider chasing, I suggest a new difficulty level with Pulse or Classic on AS (with Consistency at 6 to start).

Oh, and you have a PM.

[pokerplaya]

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This is not true, to the extent that it ONLY impacts wild pitches.

I'm not saying even zeroing it out will be enoug for you on AS, I'm just pointing out that your understanding of the slider isn't exactly accurate.

Without going into way too much detail, essentially, Consistency will impact the reliability of your pitches, how far away from your target you miss, and how quickly the pulse will pulsate.

Walks will increase by reducing Consistency. The question is: will it be enough?

HOF may be a decent suit for you.

Control will essentially be (in VERY basic terms) your meatball slider. Basically, lowering this will increase CPU BA and will force you to nibble more in order to succeed. Nibbling will lead to BB's.

Perhaps there's a happy medium for Control and Consistency for you on AS. You just need to mess around.

If you don't feel like slider chasing, I suggest a new difficulty level with Pulse or Classic on AS (with Consistency at 6 to start).

Oh, and you have a PM.

Yeah, I know what I posted wasn't entirely accurate, I'm not at the PS3, the ladies are in the pool. What I meant to say was that even while lowering it I felt more like "Control just sounds like a better fit"... control's description I *do* remember saying that if you were to lower it, you should also lower contact for the CPU as well, which immediately made me think "this is going to affect my ability to locate then, and make it harder."

Not saying I'm right or that its not a combination of both, what I do know is that with All-Star Pitching on Pulse, with the only slider changes being to 4 consistency, and 4 on Fielder Move Speed, Arm Strength, and Baserunner Speed -- that it wasn't right. I can get to the PS3 in an hour or so and grab the exact statistics for the 14 game sample... my ERA I can chalk up to some solid performances, and the pitch counts ARE great -- just not feeling that pressure that I am going to miss and walk a guy I'm not trying to with any pitcher on my staff.

[PowerofRed25]

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I feel like the only time I actually do get wild is on pulse pitching. When I get impatient and try and pitch fast or get frustrated I won't wait for the pulse to come down and I'll miss up in the zone or way wide. The meter from years past and analog never really seemed to cause many misses for me. Even when I was off, I was off in a perfect spot because you could control your wildness. On pulse, when you miss, you have no idea where you're going to miss. Could miss in a good spot, could miss wildly in the dirt or way off the plate, could miss right out over and get it crushed 10 miles. I like that mistakes are truly mistakes, not controlled wildness.

I don't walk a ton of people, maybe a few a game. But that is more of a product of me laying it in there in 3 ball counts and daring teams to hit it. I give up a TON of home runs and get hit hard. I probably should work around a few more people and get more walks rather than feed cookies on 3-1, 3-2.