Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts



    Recruiting has become a lot more unpredictable in NCAA Football 13, as prospects can now have a significant difference between their projected scouting rating and their final overall rating.

    Just because a recruit is projected to be the number one quarterback in the country doesn't mean he will end up with the class' highest ratings once fall practice begins.

    If a recruit arrives on campus with a lower rating than expected, the game will appropriately identify that player as a "bust." Alternatively, prospects who end up with a higher-than-expected rating are labeled "gems."

    No prospect in NCAA Football 13 will ever be a "sure thing," placing more importance than ever on signing a deep, well-rounded recruiting class.

    What do you think? Is the dynamic nature of recruiting a huge deal to you?
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  • Vol-4-Life
    Rookie
    • Jun 2008
    • 59

    #2
    Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

    This has the potential to be game changing IMO

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    • LucasWVU
      Banned
      • Jul 2011
      • 732

      #3
      This is my favorite add from NCAA this year. Im curious to see how it works out.

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      • baprecure
        Rookie
        • Jul 2011
        • 77

        #4
        Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

        One of the biggest things Im looking forward to is scouting. I hate signing the kids who just sit on my bench for four years or turn out to be slower than anticipated.

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        • illwill10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 19810

          #5
          Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

          This is the main reason why I am anticipating this game. This will make a big difference in recruiting. This will make players want to scout their guys before recruiting them. So, banking on a 4-5 star player without scouting him could lead to him being under 70 and not having much impact as you anticipated. The same as making you wanting to scout a 2-3 star player and getting a gem.

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          • Pezell04x
            MVP
            • Apr 2010
            • 2907

            #6
            I love it, but I'm pretty disappointed you know who will be a gem or a bust because you can see the overalls. Imagine recruiting a highly touted 5-star QB and find out his overall is a 75 and he's a bust.

            Or recruiting some 3 star HB and when he signs, you see his overall is an 80 or so.

            That would be sick. Knowing the OVR ahead of time is kind of a bummer, but I'm looking forward to this so much that it doesn't bother me a whole lot.
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            • TDenverFan
              MVP
              • Jan 2011
              • 3457

              #7
              Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

              With the bust/gem, if a player is just 3 or 4 OVR points higher than expected, is he a gem? If so, that's kinda poorly thought out.
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              • Buckeyed
                Rookie
                • Feb 2012
                • 433

                #8
                Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

                As long as the ratings truly affect gameplay outside of speed this could be sweet.

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                • msuhockeycj
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 353

                  #9
                  Pezell04x - you will not know the gem or bust status unless you scout them, their overalls change with scouting. I think in one of the videos it showed a 5* QB who was listed as an 84 but after a week of scouting went down to a 77. I would imagine this is an average change with regard to scouting.

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                  • JoBo513
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 370

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pezell04x
                    I love it, but I'm pretty disappointed you know who will be a gem or a bust because you can see the overalls. Imagine recruiting a highly touted 5-star QB and find out his overall is a 75 and he's a bust.

                    Or recruiting some 3 star HB and when he signs, you see his overall is an 80 or so.

                    That would be sick. Knowing the OVR ahead of time is kind of a bummer, but I'm looking forward to this so much that it doesn't bother me a whole lot.
                    You would have to 100% the recruit to see the guys final overall. You only have a limited amount of scouting Time so you most likely won't be able to do this for each recruit.

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                    • Jadakiss88
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 70

                      #11
                      I am with Pezell on this one. I like that fact that you can have gem's or bust's but the fact that you see the overall before they actually hit the field is a let down. While it's a good idea how much does finding that players strengths in your system play into his gem or bust status? I have always been able to find gem's and bust's but those are mostly coming out of the ATH pool of recruits. I've turned a 3 star 6'5" ATH into a Heisman Candidate. I have done the same with a 2 star 6'0" ATH the 3 star was a WR and the 2 star was a CB that I had returning punts and kicks in his first two seasons.

                      I think this should be soley based off of your system, how you run your system, and being able to point out the players strengths while hiding their weakness. If they bring back Individual Training events this feature would be great.

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                      • MachoMyers
                        Old School
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7670

                        #12
                        Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

                        If a recruit arrives on campus with a lower rating than expected, the game will appropriately identify that player as a "bust." Alternatively, prospects who end up with a higher-than-expected rating are labeled "gems."
                        Not really sure I like that they are labelled as busts or gems before they even play a down. Will busts still turn into stars if they are successful or can gems be slow in progression as they age?

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 19810

                          #13
                          Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

                          Originally posted by TDenverFan
                          With the bust/gem, if a player is just 3 or 4 OVR points higher than expected, is he a gem? If so, that's kinda poorly thought out.
                          No, I read that there are BIG swings. I read somewhere the swing is as high as 20-22 pts.
                          I think a gem/bust will be so if there is a -/+ 6 Ovr pts.

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                          • FloydNDLAL
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 281

                            #14
                            Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

                            Originally posted by illwill10
                            No, I read that there are BIG swings. I read somewhere the swing is as high as 20-22 pts.
                            I think a gem/bust will be so if there is a -/+ 6 Ovr pts.
                            Yeah I also saw that in the podcast.

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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19810

                              #15
                              Re: Five Reasons to Be Excited for NCAA 13: #4 Scouting Gems and Busts

                              Originally posted by Xavier12
                              Not really sure I like that they are labelled as busts or gems before they even play a down. Will busts still turn into stars if they are successful or can gems be slow in progression as they age?
                              I think the progression is the same, based on the Coaches OVR grade. So, a 70 OVR bust 5 star QB can still become a 90 OVR QB with a good coach

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