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  • bluegomaize
    Banned
    • Jul 2012
    • 92

    #1

    I'm sick of the computer cheating

    I am so tired of the cheating that goes on during games against the computer. I am currently in an Online Dynasty that is played on heisman and some of the things that happen are ridiculous. It sill happens on all-american, but it isn't as blatant or obvious.

    I've had 3 or 4 plays reviewed that were all easy calls and the booth made the wrong call after the review. No surprise that all of the wrong calls benefited the computer. One other thing I've noticed is that it will only review plays that would/will benefit the computer. The user on the other hand has to waste their challenge as the game won't review a play that would be beneficial to the user.

    I'm sick of the computer intercepting any pass they can get their hands on. Me on the other hand... I user the DB and press the Y button to intercept or try and swat the ball and my DB does nothing. Doesn't even bother to put his hands up. This happens all the time. Same thing on offense.

    The computer gets AWESOME blocking. I rush 6 guys and I still can't get that much pressure. If I do the computer takes off and runs with the QB for a nice gain. The computer rushes 4 or 5 guys and I have a very short time to get the ball off. They also get awesome run blocking. When I run the ball I can't even follow my blockers because they aren't even concentrated on their blocking assignments. I don't know how many times I've watched a blitzing LB run right by my FB, TE, or pulling guard. They don't even make an attempt to block the computer. I don't mind if the computer makes a play and gets around my guy, but for him to be completely untouched is total non-sense. Sometimes the difference between a 5 yard gain and a 3 yard loss is the blocker just getting a chip on the blitzer to slow down his momentum.

    The computer breaks tackles whenever it wants to. Sometimes even multiple tackles on the same play. I can't even get my power running back to push the defender backwards as he is tackled. I rarely break tackles on heisman. The computer seems to break a tackle every play.

    I also want to know why when I scramble with my QB the computer defenders leave the man they are defending immediately and pursue my QB. Usually before I even get to the line of scrimmage. This is extremely evident when you try to scramble in the flats. When I'm on defense and the computer QB scrambles none of the secondary of LB's pursue until they are at least 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. Not to mention when I try and switch players to user the play... it switches me to someone who is behind the QB or too slow to make the angle of pursuit, so they are already out of the play.

    The computer QBs are like Tom Brady. Even the mobile QBs. I will have a WR completely blanketed and the computer will throw a pass behind the WR... the WR will turn around and my CB will follow but be a step behind and then the computer makes a nice catch. If I did that precision pass my WR wouldn't get to the ball in time.

    I'm also mad about what happens with fumbles. (this also happens in user games) You fumble the ball and your guys just sit there and watch while the other team dives across the screen to grab the ball. It also ticks me off when I switch to someone pursuing the fumble... and I know I have time to scoop the ball up, so I can make some type of a fumble return... and the stupid "computer assist" crap comes on and I dive. That seems to happen against the computer all the time.. of course when you have wide open field ahead and it would likely be a TD.
  • jecraiders128
    Rookie
    • May 2012
    • 12

    #2
    Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

    Originally posted by bluegomaize
    I am so tired of the cheating that goes on during games against the computer. I am currently in an Online Dynasty that is played on heisman and some of the things that happen are ridiculous. It sill happens on all-american, but it isn't as blatant or obvious.

    I've had 3 or 4 plays reviewed that were all easy calls and the booth made the wrong call after the review. No surprise that all of the wrong calls benefited the computer. One other thing I've noticed is that it will only review plays that would/will benefit the computer. The user on the other hand has to waste their challenge as the game won't review a play that would be beneficial to the user.

    I'm sick of the computer intercepting any pass they can get their hands on. Me on the other hand... I user the DB and press the Y button to intercept or try and swat the ball and my DB does nothing. Doesn't even bother to put his hands up. This happens all the time. Same thing on offense.

    The computer gets AWESOME blocking. I rush 6 guys and I still can't get that much pressure. If I do the computer takes off and runs with the QB for a nice gain. The computer rushes 4 or 5 guys and I have a very short time to get the ball off. They also get awesome run blocking. When I run the ball I can't even follow my blockers because they aren't even concentrated on their blocking assignments. I don't know how many times I've watched a blitzing LB run right by my FB, TE, or pulling guard. They don't even make an attempt to block the computer. I don't mind if the computer makes a play and gets around my guy, but for him to be completely untouched is total non-sense. Sometimes the difference between a 5 yard gain and a 3 yard loss is the blocker just getting a chip on the blitzer to slow down his momentum.

    The computer breaks tackles whenever it wants to. Sometimes even multiple tackles on the same play. I can't even get my power running back to push the defender backwards as he is tackled. I rarely break tackles on heisman. The computer seems to break a tackle every play.

    I also want to know why when I scramble with my QB the computer defenders leave the man they are defending immediately and pursue my QB. Usually before I even get to the line of scrimmage. This is extremely evident when you try to scramble in the flats. When I'm on defense and the computer QB scrambles none of the secondary of LB's pursue until they are at least 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. Not to mention when I try and switch players to user the play... it switches me to someone who is behind the QB or too slow to make the angle of pursuit, so they are already out of the play.

    The computer QBs are like Tom Brady. Even the mobile QBs. I will have a WR completely blanketed and the computer will throw a pass behind the WR... the WR will turn around and my CB will follow but be a step behind and then the computer makes a nice catch. If I did that precision pass my WR wouldn't get to the ball in time.

    I'm also mad about what happens with fumbles. (this also happens in user games) You fumble the ball and your guys just sit there and watch while the other team dives across the screen to grab the ball. It also ticks me off when I switch to someone pursuing the fumble... and I know I have time to scoop the ball up, so I can make some type of a fumble return... and the stupid "computer assist" crap comes on and I dive. That seems to happen against the computer all the time.. of course when you have wide open field ahead and it would likely be a TD.
    About the not being able to jump with your DBs problem, do you have the tuner? When I wasn't using it I had the same problem as you, but now when I use the tuner I can actually jump and get user picks.

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    • bluegomaize
      Banned
      • Jul 2012
      • 92

      #3
      Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

      Originally posted by jecraiders128
      About the not being able to jump with your DBs problem, do you have the tuner? When I wasn't using it I had the same problem as you, but now when I use the tuner I can actually jump and get user picks.
      Yes I do.. I have to because I play online. I'm aware of what you are saying though.

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      • aspengc8
        Rookie
        • Jun 2010
        • 171

        #4
        Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

        Whats also funny is when you come out in a pass, and quick audible to run. The CPU crowds the box with a blitz. If you audible out, they back off.

        They know your play. Every. Time. Can't fake them out by resetting the play or audible to run twice to fake them. Nope. Nada.

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        • DJncsu13
          Rookie
          • Apr 2009
          • 77

          #5
          Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

          Originally posted by aspengc8
          Whats also funny is when you come out in a pass, and quick audible to run. The CPU crowds the box with a blitz. If you audible out, they back off.

          They know your play. Every. Time. Can't fake them out by resetting the play or audible to run twice to fake them. Nope. Nada.

          Knowing your play really gets to me. Especially on a 4th and short and you try to run a fake punt run in a situation you normally wouldn't, they line up in Punt Return Safe. Every freaking time. I very rarely run a fake punt, so when I do, they shouldn't know it's coming, every time.

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          • Mhurricane266
            Rookie
            • Dec 2008
            • 67

            #6
            Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

            Edit........
            Last edited by Mhurricane266; 07-18-2012, 10:07 AM.

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            • Mhurricane266
              Rookie
              • Dec 2008
              • 67

              #7
              Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

              This is one of the reasons I don't mess with heisman. I'd reccomend playing on all American and getting a great set of sliders. Base heisman is usually full of all of that bs. Back when I was younger I'd deal with it so If any one asked or wanted it play I'd be like yeah put it on heisman but I'm in the business of enjoyment when I play games and ea heisman difficulty is ridiculous so I'll put the game on whatever difficulty I enjoy most. I see your in an online dynasty though so it won't fix that problem

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              • bluegomaize
                Banned
                • Jul 2012
                • 92

                #8
                Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                Originally posted by aspengc8
                Whats also funny is when you come out in a pass, and quick audible to run. The CPU crowds the box with a blitz. If you audible out, they back off.

                They know your play. Every. Time. Can't fake them out by resetting the play or audible to run twice to fake them. Nope. Nada.
                I found that out with the fake FGs and punts. EVERY time you try to run a fake they come out in a fake FG or fake punt defense. Then on the contrary, every time you punt they come out in the normal punt return or field goal block.

                The fake plays are completely useless against the computer.

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                • pdandi1
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 73

                  #9
                  Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                  The hate of this game is getting a little out of hand. The computer doesn't "cheat" I mean come on, its the hardest difficulty of course its gonna be a little difficult

                  My suggestion is in your Online Dynasty is to change some sliders around to make things more even. I know its frustrating when the computer can seem to come back with 3 minutes left, but that's the challenge in the game. I love it personally. I don't think the game cheats. If it was doing this stuff on varsity, then we have a problem, but if you play on Heisman, its going to push you and cause you to have problems.

                  Just my $.02

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                  • bluegomaize
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 92

                    #10
                    Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                    Originally posted by Mhurricane266
                    This is one of the reasons I don't mess with heisman. I'd reccomend playing on all American and getting a great set of sliders. Base heisman is usually full of all of that bs. Back when I was younger I'd deal with it so If any one asked or wanted it play I'd be like yeah put it on heisman but I'm in the business of enjoyment when I play games so I'll put the game on whatever difficulty I enjoy most. I see your in an online dynasty though so it won't fix that problem
                    Yeah I'm thinking about asking them to change it. My other OD is on all American with adjusted sliders... We have done that the past 4 years and it plays much better.

                    I hope they don't have a problem with. Some of them have been getting murdered by the computer.

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                    • Souchiro
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 53

                      #11
                      Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                      The broken tackles upset me to no end.

                      Also the Linebackers with Jordan verticals and hang time.

                      DBs who mirror routes.

                      WRs who are wide open that slow down and let the ball go right past.

                      ONSIDE KICKS in close games. The CPU is 8/10 with me on those.

                      Robo QB has now been joined by Robo HB.
                      GoBlue

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                      • Colt45
                        Rookie
                        • May 2011
                        • 656

                        #12
                        Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                        You guys haven't been playing NCAA very long, have you? This stuff has happened back to AT LEAST the PS2 days.

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                        • bluegomaize
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 92

                          #13
                          Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                          Originally posted by pdandi1
                          The hate of this game is getting a little out of hand. The computer doesn't "cheat" I mean come on, its the hardest difficulty of course its gonna be a little difficult

                          My suggestion is in your Online Dynasty is to change some sliders around to make things more even. I know its frustrating when the computer can seem to come back with 3 minutes left, but that's the challenge in the game. I love it personally. I don't think the game cheats. If it was doing this stuff on varsity, then we have a problem, but if you play on Heisman, its going to push you and cause you to have problems.

                          Just my $.02
                          There is a difference between the computer playing well and the computer forcing my players to be stupid. My blockers should at least attempt to block someone. Not stand there and watch the RB get tackled.

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                          • Souchiro
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 53

                            #14
                            Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                            Smh.

                            So I'm supposed to be okay with the AI cheating cause its happened for years? Gotcha.

                            I'm supposed to adjust sliders to make a game better that's supposed to finished out of the box. Gotcha.

                            I'm okay with losing fair and square no matter the difficulty. If I'm throwing into double coverage or forgetting to protect the ball, that's on me.

                            But making the ai break 10 tackles on a 80 yard run. Or a DB decide to stare off into space for no reason is another issue.
                            GoBlue

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                            • jayenomics
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2076

                              #15
                              Re: I'm sick of the computer cheating

                              If the computer didn't cheat I'd go 14-0 every season and never lose a game...I'd rather be frustrated and lose 1-3 games a season then just rick roll every team.

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