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  • Silent Nature
    Pro
    • May 2005
    • 972

    #1

    The Philosophy on Ratings

    I've came up with this philosophy, "Zero to Hero", on how to rate a player's attributes for now and throughout the season. I want to come up with a basic system where it is very simple to sit down and rate a player without having to resort to evaluating thousands of results from combines or camp drills, which can be wildly inaccurate.

    We have to go by how we perceive them on tape and from our experience of watching them on TV and their proven stats against their competition. That is the best way to rate a player's attribute. Consider the following...

    When you want to make a recommendation, use this rank to give the term to give the appropriate rating for each attribute. It will be very useful to balance out the midmajor teams where they wouldn't be way too effective against top power conference teams. We have to make it further apart in skill level for it to happen. 84 is the breaking point where the top midmajor players should be at because their competition is not as good as power conference's competition. That will give the leeway for the top teams to pull away from the midmajors or weak teams.

    Rerated Community Roster Database (RCRD): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...EExRExobkZJWWc

    WARNING: Do not change any numbers in BASE RATING TABLE because that is where all of the data are being pulled for Player Creation section when you type in a position. You may download the spreadsheet for your own personal use if you want to edit players offline and copy & paste the data to DATABASE sheet for each player since Google Docs is all online that everyone can edit simultaneously.

    The spreadsheet is now released to the public. Use the DATABASE sheet to insert new players and their adjusted ratings. You can use RATING sheet to come up with the normalized rating for any player for any position. Just put the position in the grey box and it will automatically retrieve the base rating to start with the process of rerating to a normalized level.

    This project will be for OS Community Rosters. v2.3 should be out this weekend then I will download the new update and put in the new normalized ratings for top players and many other players that will need the adjustments. We all can pass around the file to help each other out to update as we go with the spreadsheet above.

    Make sure to highlight anything that we have already updated to the OS Community Roster!


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    "Zero to Hero" - OVR Rating System

    98-99: Hero
    Record-breaking & highlight-reeling playmaker (Legendary players)

    93-97: All American
    Great skill level (NCAA stars)

    85-92: All Conference
    Good skill level (Power conference starters)

    80-84: Role Player
    Fair skill level (Power conference bench players/top midmajor players)

    75-79: Freshman
    Above Average skill level (Top midmajor players)

    70-74: FCS
    Average level (Midmajor starters)

    60-69: Junior College
    Below Average skill level (Midmajor bench players and walk-ons)

    50-59: Community College
    Passable skill level

    26-49: Rec League
    Some skill level

    11-25: High School
    Basic skill level

    1-10: Pop Warner
    Mediocre skill level

    0: Zero
    Absolutely no skill
    Last edited by Silent Nature; 08-05-2012, 04:47 PM.
    "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
    -- Anais Nin
  • metallicarl
    Pro
    • Jul 2011
    • 696

    #2
    Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

    I agree that there needs to be a separation between the stars and avg starters but every mid major has potential NFL stars. If you cap the mid majors at 79, none would be NFL players. I think the ratings need to be lowered between avg players and stars so that the skill level really stands out and just have the elite above 90. After the first year of my dynasty every team has a 85 or above QB. I think the freshman ratings need to be lowered by about 7 or 8 points except for elite recruits--say the top 20 at each position. But I do agree with some of your points!!

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    • Silent Nature
      Pro
      • May 2005
      • 972

      #3
      Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

      Absolutely, the breaking point at 84 is like the filter where most midmajor players will stay at or under, but there'll be some players that deserves 85+ since they'll be the stars of their teams. Most teams usually have a couple of them.

      We just need a nice system where it'll be much easier to evaluate most players' ratings and get the game on a much balanced field because there's too many players that are "generously" rated.
      Last edited by Silent Nature; 07-28-2012, 09:47 PM.
      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
      -- Anais Nin

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      • Silent Nature
        Pro
        • May 2005
        • 972

        #4
        Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

        Rewrote the ranking system for improvements.

        I will be working on the attribute guide soon.
        "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
        -- Anais Nin

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        • Silent Nature
          Pro
          • May 2005
          • 972

          #5
          Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

          Updated with two new normalized rating template for QB and RB. FB/WR/TE will be coming up soon.
          "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
          -- Anais Nin

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          • Silent Nature
            Pro
            • May 2005
            • 972

            #6
            Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

            "Normalized" Denard Robinson - Influenced by "Zero to Hero" rating system



            OVR: 94
            SPD: 95 (MAXED)
            STR: 60
            AGI: 92
            ACC: 95 (MAXED)
            AWR: 87
            BTK: 80
            TRK: 55
            ELU: 92
            BCV: 92
            SFA: 70
            SPM: 88
            JKM: 90
            CAR: 85
            CTH: 70
            SPC: 50
            CIT: 50
            RTE: 50
            JMP: 85
            THP: 90
            THA: 83
            TAK: 25
            POW: 10
            PMV: 0
            FMV: 0
            BSH: 10
            PUR: 10
            PRC: 50
            MCV: 0
            ZCV: 0
            PRS: 0
            RLS: 40
            PBK: 25
            RBK: 25
            IBL: 25
            KPW: 10
            KAC: 10
            RET: 10
            STA: 95
            INJ: 80
            Last edited by Silent Nature; 07-29-2012, 05:15 PM.
            "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
            -- Anais Nin

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            • Silent Nature
              Pro
              • May 2005
              • 972

              #7
              Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

              "Normalized" Braxton Miller - Influenced by "Zero to Hero" rating system



              OVR: 89
              SPD: 89
              STR: 60
              AGI: 94
              ACC: 91
              AWR: 75
              BTK: 73
              TRK: 60
              ELU: 85
              BCV: 80
              SFA: 70
              SPM: 80
              JKM: 94
              CAR: 75
              CTH: 60
              SPC: 40
              CIT: 50
              RTE: 50
              JMP: 75
              THP: 89
              THA: 85
              TAK: 25
              POW: 10
              PMV: 0
              FMV: 0
              BSH: 10
              PUR: 10
              PRC: 50
              MCV: 0
              ZCV: 0
              PRS: 0
              RLS: 30
              PBK: 25
              RBK: 25
              IBL: 25
              KPW: 10
              KAC: 10
              RET: 10
              STA: 90
              INJ: 85
              Last edited by Silent Nature; 07-29-2012, 05:14 PM.
              "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
              -- Anais Nin

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              • pimpinpidgeon8
                MVP
                • Aug 2005
                • 1409

                #8
                I like this. Going to continue posting ratings?


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                ...and hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons."

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                • Silent Nature
                  Pro
                  • May 2005
                  • 972

                  #9
                  Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

                  Of course, I'm going to continue posting ratings and continually update the roster set I have. (Started with OS Community Rosters v2.2)

                  I'm going to keep posting various college studs at different positions to share some insights I have with my rating system.
                  "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
                  -- Anais Nin

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                  • Silent Nature
                    Pro
                    • May 2005
                    • 972

                    #10
                    Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

                    "Normalized" Matt Barkley - Influenced by "Zero to Hero" rating system



                    OVR: 98
                    SPD: 71
                    STR: 75
                    AGI: 74
                    ACC: 74
                    AWR: 91
                    BTK: 70
                    TRK: 60
                    ELU: 50
                    BCV: 65
                    SFA: 55
                    SPM: 40
                    JKM: 55
                    CAR: 75
                    CTH: 25
                    SPC: 25
                    CIT: 25
                    RTE: 25
                    JMP: 65
                    THP: 93
                    THA: 95
                    TAK: 25
                    POW: 25
                    PMV: 0
                    FMV: 0
                    BSH: 10
                    PUR: 10
                    PRC: 50
                    MCV: 0
                    ZCV: 0
                    PRS: 0
                    RLS: 10
                    PBK: 25
                    RBK: 25
                    IBL: 25
                    KPW: 10
                    KAC: 10
                    RET: 10
                    STA: 95
                    INJ: 90
                    "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
                    -- Anais Nin

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                    • volstopfan14
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2307

                      #11
                      Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

                      How would you rate Steven Fowlkes? Starting DE for Tennessee.
                      Tennessee Volunteers
                      Charlotte Hornets

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                      • Silent Nature
                        Pro
                        • May 2005
                        • 972

                        #12
                        Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

                        Originally posted by volstopfan14
                        How would you rate Steven Fowlkes? Starting DE for Tennessee.
                        "Normalized" Steven Fowlkes - Influenced by "Zero to Hero" rating system



                        OVR: 83
                        SPD: 80
                        STR: 83
                        AGI: 75
                        ACC: 83
                        AWR: 85
                        BTK: 25
                        TRK: 50
                        ELU: 45
                        BCV: 45
                        SFA: 30
                        SPM: 30
                        JKM: 30
                        CAR: 55
                        CTH: 45
                        SPC: 25
                        CIT: 40
                        RTE: 25
                        JMP: 65
                        THP: 10
                        THA: 10
                        TAK: 80
                        POW: 75
                        PMV: 70
                        FMV: 80
                        BSH: 78
                        PUR: 70
                        PRC: 75
                        MCV: 50
                        ZCV: 70
                        PRS: 40
                        RLS: 25
                        PBK: 50
                        RBK: 50
                        IBL: 25
                        KPW: 10
                        KAC: 10
                        RET: 10
                        STA: 85
                        INJ: 80


                        This is your average SEC starter who is a redshirted senior with some game experience. If he goes back to being to a backup player, he'll drop to 77-79 range.
                        Last edited by Silent Nature; 07-29-2012, 05:53 PM.
                        "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."
                        -- Anais Nin

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                        • pimpinpidgeon8
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 1409

                          #13
                          What's your PSN to download these?

                          Nvm read first post.


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                          Last edited by pimpinpidgeon8; 07-29-2012, 07:27 PM.
                          "Hate my game, hate my swagger, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran, a champion. Hate that, hate it with all your heart...
                          ...and hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons."

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                          • pmurray20
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1370

                            #14
                            Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

                            i actually like this it would be great if u went with posting all 90 overalls first then just went down to 80's and so on well since im xbox and not ps3 lol
                            Last edited by pmurray20; 07-29-2012, 10:10 PM.
                            Go Bucks!!

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                            • volstopfan14
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 2307

                              #15
                              Re: The Philosophy on Ratings

                              How about Travis Johnson, DE, San Jose State?
                              Tennessee Volunteers
                              Charlotte Hornets

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