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  • jd_newton72
    Rookie
    • Jan 2012
    • 171

    #1

    Change coach scheme in ccm

    I've looked like everywhere and can't find where or if u can change your created coach in ccm scheme. U can change individual positions but not your coaches scheme. It would be really stupid to not beable to change your overall scheme.
  • rayb
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 218

    #2
    Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

    I dont think you can.

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    • Gatorfan89
      Rookie
      • Jul 2012
      • 183

      #3
      Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

      I started a thread on this a while back. You cant change it. You also cant change your run/pass ratio once youve started, which to me, is a significantly bigger issue.

      This is what happened to me. I was the Colts. I started off with a run heavy offense, I believe the ratio was 60/40 run/pass, that way I could take the pressure off Luck while he is young.

      After about 3 years Luck is a 90+, I have Jimmy Graham and Hernandez at TE, and Julio Jones and Green at WR. My RB is a 79. Well logically, now I'm going to pass more and would like to switch to more of a 40/60 or 30/70 run/pass. Well guess what? Tough, you cant do it. I was forced to continue to go run heavy since I cant changed it.

      So instead of having the dominant pass offense my team is built to run, I only end up with about 3400 yards passing with a high QB rating and good TD/INT ratio, meanwhile I end up with 1300 rushing averaging 3.1 a carry.

      It's extremely aggravating, since when I started my Colts franchise I didnt know that. So for someone like me, who doesnt like to play every game, its not even fun since I cant manage my team and my stats come out shiitty on both ends.

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      • jd_newton72
        Rookie
        • Jan 2012
        • 171

        #4
        Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

        What i don't like is the coaches weekly goals. I want to be a power run team and all I do is run but my coaches goals are all about passing. Pretty stupid. I bet if my scheme was power run I'd have more rushing goals.

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        • ggsimmonds
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2009
          • 11235

          #5
          Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

          Supposedly the team schemes change automatically once you have the necessary personnel for the scheme.

          But Idon't like how that is implemented

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          • jmik58
            Staff Writer
            • Jan 2008
            • 2401

            #6
            Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

            Originally posted by ggsimmonds
            Supposedly the team schemes change automatically once you have the necessary personnel for the scheme.

            But Idon't like how that is implemented
            I have yet to see this and it doesn't make sense if that's how it's supposed to work.

            Nowhere else in the game do you have to adjust the pieces to make the whole picture change. You adjust sliders and settings to reach a desired effect, not the other way around.

            Besides that, that means I would have to sign a bunch of players who don't fit my scheme just to "maybe" get the scheme to change? But again, I've never seen a scheme change.

            For example... I had a Power Run, Base 4-3 scheme with Jeff Fisher. I retired him and took over the same team with a created coach using the same schemes. Magically the team schemes had shifted to West Coast and Spread... what???

            The players were the same as before, so that blows the theory about players making the scheme right out of the water.

            This whole scheme issue is really getting on my nerves and the misinformation about it isn't helping matters.

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            • RajonRondo
              Rookie
              • Aug 2010
              • 275

              #7
              Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

              yea I don't like it either, I created a coach for the Browns with the patriots offense in mind and I'm stuck with a west coast offense scheme.

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              • MoleDude
                Rookie
                • Apr 2010
                • 461

                #8
                Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                Originally posted by jmik58
                For example... I had a Power Run, Base 4-3 scheme with Jeff Fisher. I retired him and took over the same team with a created coach using the same schemes. Magically the team schemes had shifted to West Coast and Spread... what???
                This part is very concerning to me, although it might show what ggsimmonds said as being accurate. Certainly not something I'm willing to test, as I feel like I'd eventually throw my xbox out a window.

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                • jmik58
                  Staff Writer
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2401

                  #9
                  Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                  Originally posted by MoleDude
                  This part is very concerning to me, although it might show what ggsimmonds said as being accurate. Certainly not something I'm willing to test, as I feel like I'd eventually throw my xbox out a window.
                  I forgot to mention that I went in and adjusted all of the position types back to how they were before AND my playbooks were correct in-game. So basically this looks like an annoying sufrace-level issue that can't be changed. However, it likely impacts ratings and progression (XP).

                  My understanding is that players will progress faster (or earn more XP) when their scheme type and player type matches your scheme/player type. I'm not sure if there is a boost for only one of them or both, etc. or even what the boost is.

                  When you're progressing players and earning XP, this is very important to know. Like I said in my previous post, the misinformation is leading to more speculation which just makes it worse.

                  Someone from EA should step in and really explain this. I read through the online CCM manual and it doesn't address this issue either. I wonder if this is what it feels like to try and translate text from another language without any guide or book to base it from. EA?

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                  • MoleDude
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 461

                    #10
                    Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                    Originally posted by jmik58
                    When you're progressing players and earning XP, this is very important to know. Like I said in my previous post, the misinformation is leading to more speculation which just makes it worse.

                    Someone from EA should step in and really explain this. I read through the online CCM manual and it doesn't address this issue either. I wonder if this is what it feels like to try and translate text from another language without any guide or book to base it from. EA?
                    Absolutely would like some clarification on the issues.

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                    • KingV2k3
                      Senior Circuit
                      • May 2003
                      • 5881

                      #11
                      Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                      Is there a difference with created coaches vs classic coaches vs current coaches?

                      I have a created coach online CCM (Bills) and I changed the default schemes to match my personnel and it has stuck...

                      Is it because of the created coach?

                      Online?

                      Both?

                      Thoughts?

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                      • MoleDude
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 461

                        #12
                        Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                        Originally posted by KingV2k3
                        Is there a difference with created coaches vs classic coaches vs current coaches?

                        I have a created coach online CCM (Bills) and I changed the default schemes to match my personnel and it has stuck...

                        Is it because of the created coach?

                        Online?

                        Both?

                        Thoughts?
                        Did you stick with the Bills playbooks on offense and defense?

                        I found this thread:

                        http://www.theeafl.com/t3260-madden-...reated-coaches

                        Reading that might have confused me even more, though. One person claims it's based on playbooks, another says it's a bug/glitch.

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                        • KingV2k3
                          Senior Circuit
                          • May 2003
                          • 5881

                          #13
                          Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                          Originally posted by MoleDude
                          Did you stick with the Bills playbooks on offense and defense?

                          I found this thread:

                          http://www.theeafl.com/t3260-madden-...reated-coaches

                          Reading that might have confused me even more, though. One person claims it's based on playbooks, another says it's a bug/glitch.
                          When I created my coach I had him use the "John Madden" playbook on O and 4-3 on D...

                          I will check out that link...

                          Thanks!

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                          • Yank11
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 24

                            #14
                            Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                            really pisses me off aswell, especially with fantasy draft. I have to pick my coach settings before I even draft my team? happened to me earlier where I set it up for a power running team and then based on how the draft went ended up with a pass heavy lineup, but couldn't change it.


                            Also in my regular CCM I had it set at 60pass/40run for a Giants CCM. Had Eli and Carr both get hurt for 2 weeks, was just hoping to rely on the run during that time, but instead I had to be forced to have Ryan Perrilloux throwing 45+ times a game...


                            I don't see how/why they would take this out of the game

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                            • SloeyEZ
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1363

                              #15
                              Re: Change coach scheme in ccm

                              Originally posted by Yank11
                              really pisses me off aswell, especially with fantasy draft. I have to pick my coach settings before I even draft my team? happened to me earlier where I set it up for a power running team and then based on how the draft went ended up with a pass heavy lineup, but couldn't change it.
                              A Coach is a person with a philosophy, you choose the players that match your philosophy, you don't just end up with a pass heavy lineup. You draft players that match your scheme not the best available people and end up with something other than what you intended. That is the discipline, strategy, and work of a draft.

                              Having said that however, you can't choose your coaching scheme anyway yet, so yeah it needs to be fixed. Or at least you couldn't I haven't started a new ccm since the patch

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