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  • orion523
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    • Aug 2007
    • 6709

    #1

    Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

    Although not a slider guru by any means, I think I've come up with a set that really captures the feel of NHL Hockey when witnessed live, fast hard nosed and hard hitting. Hopefully you guys agree.

    Be A GM Mode
    * represents settings changed specifically for Be A GM

    Rules
    Period Length: 9 Mins.
    Offsides: Delayed
    Icing: On
    Injuries: On
    Tie Break: NHL Rules
    Penalties: Maxed
    Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
    Penalty Time Scaling: 2
    Fighting: Maxed

    Gameplay Basic
    Skill Level: All-Star
    Game Style: Current

    General(Hum/CPU)
    Tuner Set: 1.07(Latest)
    CPU Aid: Hardcore
    Broken Stick Frequency: 3
    Game Speed: 2
    Attribute Effects: 4
    Fatigue Effects: 5/6
    Fatigue Recovery: 2/2
    Injury Occurrence: 5/5(Finally seeing a proper amount)
    Puck Control: 1/1
    Player Acceleration: 3/3

    AI(Hum/CPU)
    Created Plays: On
    AI Learning: 4
    CPU Difficulty Adj: 0
    CPU Strategy Adjustment: 3
    Be A Pro Strategy Adj: 0
    Human Strategy Adjustment: 0
    CPU Faceoff Difficulty: 4
    Fight Difficulty: 5
    CPU Penalties: Maxed
    CPU Teammate Penalties: Maxed

    Passing(Hum/CPU)
    Pass Assist: 4
    Manual Passing: Off
    Pass Speed: 3
    Saucer Pass Speed: 3
    Pass Accuracy: 3/1
    Pass Reception Ease: 2/0
    Pass Interceptions: 4/4

    Shooting(Hum/CPU)
    Shot Accuracy: 1/1
    Shot Power: 3/3
    Slap Shot Accuracy: 0/0
    Slap Shot Power: 3/3
    One Timer Accuracy: 1/1

    Checking(Hum/CPU)
    Hitting Assistance: 2
    Aggression: 5/6
    Hitting Power: 2/2
    Stick Lift Effectiveness: 4/4
    Poke Effectiveness: 3/3

    Goalies(Hum/CPU)
    Goalie Passing: 1
    Goalie Cover Puck Frequency: Mexed
    Goalie Screen Effect: 4/4
    Goalie Reaction Speed: 2/2

    Using the skating and shooting practice modes, I honed in skating and shot speed to be as realistic as possible. Using these slap shots average in the high 80's to low 90's range with the highest I've seen being Charra at 106.4. Wristers average in the high 60's low 70's. As for skating, I used the in game timer to time different players doing a lap around the rink in the same way it was done in the older skills competitions, the fastest player was right around 14 seconds while most hovered in the 15 sec range. As for the rest of the sliders I DO NOT take any credit whatsoever, I borrowed a lot from Al Tito and Savoie, who's sliders I used to base these off of. Truthfully I wasn't even going to update the set but since the thread has already been created it gives me a handy space to keep track of what I'm using.
    Last edited by orion523; 02-06-2013, 02:34 PM.
  • orion523
    All Star
    • Aug 2007
    • 6709

    #2
    Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

    I'm going to start posting some game stats in order to keep track of things, here's what I'm aiming for:

    Shots: About 29-30 per game, per team
    Goals: 5.3 per game(combined)
    Hits: 44 per game(combined)
    Passing %: 70's(estimated, NHL doesn't keep this stat)
    Power Play Opps: Roughly 3 per team per game
    Shot Accuracy: Overlooked a lot, I did some research and found that roughly 29% of shots taken actually miss the net.
    Last edited by orion523; 02-04-2013, 01:04 PM.

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    • Keytosa
      Rookie
      • Mar 2012
      • 102

      #3
      Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

      These look good and I like what you're shooting for stat-wise. Do you see many penalties with these? And have you tested these in Be a GM or just Play Now? Thanks

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      • orion523
        All Star
        • Aug 2007
        • 6709

        #4
        Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

        Originally posted by Keytosa
        These look good and I like what you're shooting for stat-wise. Do you see many penalties with these? And have you tested these in Be a GM or just Play Now? Thanks
        Right now I've just been testing in Play Now, but now that I have a good base I'll be moving into Be A GM. As for penalties, we're just at the mercy of the game engine so I'm not going to go crazy over it. So far I've been averaging 2-3 for each side per game.

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        • orion523
          All Star
          • Aug 2007
          • 6709

          #5
          Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

          First change is upping period lengths to 9mins. It may acutually need to go to 10, but for now I'll keep it an 9. As I get better, the game is getting much tighter, with better passing, hitting, and defense all of which is limiting chances. Here's the first game with 9 minute periods


          <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="2">Boston Bruins at Philadelphia Flyers</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td valign="top" width="55%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="stathead"><td width="52%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="12%">1</td><td align="right" width="12%">2</td><td align="right" width="12%">3</td><td align="right" width="12%">F</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>BOS ()</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active"><b>2</b></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>PHI ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active"><b>0</b></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="2">Three Stars</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/1-Star.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Tuukka Rask</b><br />21 saves, SO</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/2-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Patrice Bergeron</b><br />1 Goal, 1 assist</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/3-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Ilya Bryzgalov</b><br />29 saves</td></tr></table></td><td valign="top" width="45%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="64%"></td><td align="right" width="18%">BOS</td><td align="right" width="18%">PHI</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shots on Goal</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">21</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Hits</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">11</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Faceoffs Won-Lost</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">5</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Penalty Minutes</td><td align="right">4:00</td><td align="right">25:00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Power Plays Converted</td><td align="right">1/6</td><td align="right">0/1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Power Play Opportunities</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Time on Attack</td><td align="right">8:30</td><td align="right">3:44</td></tr></table></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="2"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Scoring Summary</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

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          • orion523
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            • Aug 2007
            • 6709

            #6
            Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

            I should mention in the game above, Hartnell was hit with a game misconduct for boarding midway thru the 3rd. Another thing, during these play now tests, I'm going to choose random teams, that way I get a good idea of how these are working leaguewide

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            • orion523
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              • Aug 2007
              • 6709

              #7
              Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

              Next game, Devils at Flyers(random again!) Very close game until the third where Brodeur melted down, allowing two quick goals to Read and Giroux with about 5 mins to go. Talbot added an empty netter to rub it in.

              <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="2">New Jersey Devils at Philadelphia Flyers</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td valign="top" width="55%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="stathead"><td width="52%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="12%">1</td><td align="right" width="12%">2</td><td align="right" width="12%">3</td><td align="right" width="12%">F</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>NJD ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active"><b>1</b></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>PHI ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active"><b>4</b></td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="2">Three Stars</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/1-Star.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Ilya Bryzgalov</b><br />40 Saves, Win</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/2-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Claude Giroux</b><br />2 Goals</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="right" valign="top" width="16%"><img src="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/images/stars/3-Stars.png"></td><td width="84%"><b>Matt Read</b><br />GW Goal</td></tr></table></td><td valign="top" width="45%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="100%"><tr class="tablehead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="64%"></td><td align="right" width="18%">NJD</td><td align="right" width="18%">PHI</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shots on Goal</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Hits</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Faceoffs Won-Lost</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">9</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Penalty Minutes</td><td align="right">6:00</td><td align="right">2:00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Power Plays Converted</td><td align="right">0/1</td><td align="right">0/3</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Power Play Opportunities</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Time on Attack</td><td align="right">5:32</td><td align="right">5:48</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

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              • orion523
                All Star
                • Aug 2007
                • 6709

                #8
                Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                After about 10 games or so, here's the changes:

                Dropped penalty time scaling to 0, power plays(when they happened) seemed to last forever compared to game time. I'm much happier with this setting.

                Hitting power dropped to 2 for both Human and CPU. At one hits have no weight at all, but at three it was just two much. Two is well...perfect!

                I've upped goalie passing to 2 just because at 1 they looked really wonky.

                Finally goalie screen effect has been upped to 4/4 in order to hopefully improve goal scoring. Out of the 10 or so games I played, I rarely reach the 5 goal mark so hopefully this adds some spark.

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                • orion523
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6709

                  #9
                  Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                  Played a bunch of games over the past couple of days and I finally think I've nailed it:

                  Dropped goalie reaction speed to 3/3 while upping acceleration to 3/3 and I've been getting tremendous games, full of action, goals, and big hits, but not to the point where it's over the top arcade nonsense. Just fast, tough NHL like action.

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                  • orion523
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                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6709

                    #10
                    Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                    Again as I've gotten better, more of a true hockey flow has developed, causing me to have to raise the game to 10 minute periods. With that I'm going to begin me BE A GM, stats from the games will follow.

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                    • orion523
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6709

                      #11
                      Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                      Finally got into my test be a GM mode, and of course the sliders I've started with are totally out of whack. The game is too fast, hitting is crazy arcade like, and the game has degenerated into a back and forth fest. Total re-tune needed for this mode. In play now, above sliders work great, so that's what I'll label them.

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                      • NashGabbyHenrik
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 133

                        #12
                        Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                        theres a tuner 1.03?

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                        • orion523
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                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6709

                          #13
                          Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                          Originally posted by NashGabbyHenrik
                          theres a tuner 1.03?
                          No, it wound up being 1.02 number 2, there was an issue the first time it was released

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                          • orion523
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                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6709

                            #14
                            Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                            Pulled an all nighter last night, to get these really fine tuned for be A GM. I was really surprised at the differences between the two modes. Any-hoo the set is playing great right now except for CPU penalties of course(I get plenty called on me LOL) and scoring, it's still a little low overall. Hopefully maxing the screen effect and dropping goalie reaction to 2/2 will get the average goals per game up to 5.

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                            • eF 5ive
                              MVP
                              • May 2011
                              • 2068

                              #15
                              Re: Orion's NHL 13 Slider Set

                              Would I be wasting my time trying these? I know the difficulty is higher than MK's but didn't know if the sliders evened it out. I got whooped all pre-season as the Rangers with his. I haven't played a hockey game since Sega. I was losing like 7-1, 5-2, 6-1, etc.

                              I'm in my first game of the regular season vs the Kings and it's 1-1 going into the 3rd period. I am getting a better grip on the defense but still feel like i'm struggling with buttons. (periodically press A to switch for some reason. lol im so bad!)
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