Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

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  • VoItage
    Pro
    • Jun 2011
    • 748

    #1

    Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

    After quite a few ultimate team games, I was wondering why Aldon Smith (my LE) was getting infinitely more sacks than my right end, Jason Pierre-Paul.

    So I went into practice mode. All-Pro (difficulty of online games), Canton Greats vs Jacksonville Jaguars. I created a right tackle before hand, with the exact same attributes, size, and weight as Eugene Monroe, the starting left tackle (who is a damn good left tackle).

    First, I put Reggie White at left end (facing the cloned player at right tackle) and Lawrence Taylor at right end, facing the real Monroe. White beat the cloned Monroe on every single passing attempt after a very short period. Every single time. Taylor never once got past Monroe other than after 6-7 seconds of pocket time.

    Then I switched them around, putting Taylor at LE and White at RE. White then could not beat the left tackle at all. Not once. Meanwhile, Taylor routinely beat the right tackle on every single play.

    What gives?
  • ghostlight85
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 435

    #2
    Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

    This has been an oddity of madden for years. Not sure what causes it or how to fix it.

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    • bigbob
      MVP
      • Sep 2007
      • 10471

      #3
      Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

      It's hard to think that every right tackle in the league sucks.

      Robinson (LE) always leads my team in sacks with Allen (RE) usually being in the middle of the pack.

      Like ghost said, it's just one of those unexplainable oddities.
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      • 12
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 4458

        #4
        Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

        I am seeing the same thing. Through 8 games in my CCM, Bruce Irvin has 5 sacks and Red Bryant has 4 (I rotate these two at LE). Chris Clemons, who is a 91 OVR, has 0 sacks through 8 games.

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        • VoItage
          Pro
          • Jun 2011
          • 748

          #5
          Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

          So I guess I'm not the only one.


          Guess I'm better off putting a DT at RE for run-stuffing capabilities and a stud pass-rusher at LE, huh?

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          • ghostlight85
            Rookie
            • Feb 2009
            • 435

            #6
            Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

            You could put Mr. Potato Head at LE and he would get 10+ sacks in a full season.

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            • TMJOHNS18
              MVP
              • May 2011
              • 2586

              #7
              Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

              You should try this with a lefty and righty at QB and see if there is a difference.

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              • burnum
                Pro
                • Nov 2010
                • 599

                #8
                Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                You could also switch your DEs (RE to LE and vice versa) in obvious passing situations. There's a sub-package for it in the Nickel-Base formation.
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                • MoleDude
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 461

                  #9
                  Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                  Originally posted by burnum
                  You could also switch your DEs (RE to LE and vice versa) in obvious passing situations. There's a sub-package for it in the Nickel-Base formation.
                  This is basically what I have done...I end up trying to split the formation subs up so it's about equal.

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                  • RogueHominid
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10903

                    #10
                    Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                    What I've noticed in previous years is that almost all RT have a very low PBFW rating, which makes them suckers for even moderately talented rushers.

                    You can certainly get pressure from the right side--Aldon Smith had 10 sacks in my Niners CCM--but you have to mess with some settings to get the LDE to play more "realistically."

                    I typically up the pass blocking to the point where I get 1-2 sacks a game on average. For some reason that helps balance things out for me.

                    With Madden, though, you kind of have to take the things that do against the grain of common sense and create a narrative in which those outcomes make more sense.

                    I remind myself all-time sack leaders such as Kevin Greene, Reggie White, Michael Strahan, Ricky Jackson, and Trace Armstrong all played on the left side. That's 5 of the top 20 all-time sack leaders. Charles Haley spent several of his better seasons on the left, Howie Long notched 85 sacks from the left, Robert Mathis has 85-ish from the left, and those are just guys.

                    And then there's Gasteneau. Fastest to 100 sacks, all from the left.

                    So there's plenty of precedent for left side rushers dominating. The issue in M13 is that guys who are in the middle to lower tiers at their position can win at the point too often. I had 16 sacks with Ray McDonald--never should happen.

                    So what I do, is just move my best rusher to the left, placing my best against their worst. Or I switch them around from time to time through formation subs.

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                    • yucatan
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 377

                      #11
                      Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                      It's a glitch that depends on the handedness of the QB and is triggered by certain plays. With a righty QB, on certain combinations of offensive/defensive plays the RT will be a pylon and the LE will blow by him for an easy sack. With a lefty QB, the same thing will happen with the LT and the RE.

                      Over the course of my season, my starting LE is always one of the league leaders in sacks but in individual games against lefty QBs, my RE will go off. I've seen my RE sack Tebow 6 times in one game. In the other 15 games of the season where he started every game, he only had 1 sack total.

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                      • il blood il
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 419

                        #12
                        Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                        if im wrong here someone please tell me but im pretty sure the RT is the "power tackle" which means hes the better run blocking tackle and the LT is pass blocking tackle also known as "blindside" to the quarterback....with a lefty like vick, it would switch

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                        • Calipup
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 429

                          #13
                          Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                          Originally posted by il blood il
                          if im wrong here someone please tell me but im pretty sure the RT is the "power tackle" which means hes the better run blocking tackle and the LT is pass blocking tackle also known as "blindside" to the quarterback....with a lefty like vick, it would switch
                          That is true, but even if you have a great pass blocking RT and there is a bad LE, the LE will still get sacks.

                          My LE won DMVP due to this glitchy thing, had like 24 at the end of the year.
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                          • tarantism
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 979

                            #14
                            Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                            Originally posted by yucatan
                            It's a glitch that depends on the handedness of the QB and is triggered by certain plays. With a righty QB, on certain combinations of offensive/defensive plays the RT will be a pylon and the LE will blow by him for an easy sack. With a lefty QB, the same thing will happen with the LT and the RE.

                            Over the course of my season, my starting LE is always one of the league leaders in sacks but in individual games against lefty QBs, my RE will go off. I've seen my RE sack Tebow 6 times in one game. In the other 15 games of the season where he started every game, he only had 1 sack total.
                            This has been in the game for years, no?
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                            • payton425
                              Banned
                              • May 2012
                              • 198

                              #15
                              Re: Why are LEs infinitely better at pass rushing compared to REs?

                              Simply a gamebreakerrrrrrrr...why did I buy a digital copy??

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