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  • pdiehm
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 1402

    #1

    Explain this box-score.

    <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Cincinnati Bengals at Baltimore Ravens</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 10, 2012</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cincinnati Bengals (0-1)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" class="active">24</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Baltimore Ravens (1-0)</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right" class="active">45</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">CIN</td><td align="center" width="20%">BAL</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">264</td><td align="center">255</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">69</td><td align="center">71</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">195</td><td align="center">297</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">8</td><td align="center">23</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">24</td><td align="center">30</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">137</td><td align="center">99</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">425</td><td align="center">424</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">3/16</td><td align="center">8/17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0/2</td><td align="center">0/0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0/0</td><td align="center">1/1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">2/1/1</td><td align="center">6/4/2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">2/25</td><td align="center">5/39</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">17:22</td><td align="center">42:38</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#F03A16" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Cincinnati Bengals</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. Dalton</td><td align="right">16/39</td><td align="right">199</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Green-Ellis</td><td align="right">18</td><td align="right">68</td><td align="right">3.7</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Gresham</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">100</td><td align="right">20.0</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B. Green-Ellis</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Tate</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">30</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>M. Sanu</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">14.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>A. Green</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">7.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C. Pressley</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">18</td><td align="right">18.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R. Maualuga</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>M. Nugent</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">3/3</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">25</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>K. Huber</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">242</td><td align="right">34.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Tate</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">54</td><td align="right">27.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>B. Scott</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">83</td><td align="right">20.7</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>B. Tate</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Baltimore Ravens</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Flacco</td><td align="right">22/39</td><td align="right">310</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>R. Rice</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">135</td><td align="right">4.3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A. Allen</td><td align="right">11</td><td align="right">61</td><td align="right">5.5</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Flacco</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-2</td><td align="right">-2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>E. Dickson</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">83</td><td align="right">13.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>R. Rice</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">8.6</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T. Smith</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>A. Boldin</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">66</td><td align="right">22.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Jones</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">70</td><td align="right">23.3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>V. Leach</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>P. Kruger</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Tucker</td><td align="right">3/3</td><td align="right">4/4</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">42</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>S. Koch</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">124</td><td align="right">41.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>L. Webb</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">26.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>T. Smith</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">73</td><td align="right">24.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>J. Jones</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">30</td><td align="right">7.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

    Now by math: 297+71 does NOT = 255 (I believe it's 368).

    Also, how can I run for 197 yards with 2 players, but have only 71 in the box score? The other runner only ran for -2.

    Now I'm wondering how many other box-scores have been completely screwed up by the game?

    For those who think I'm making it up. Here's a video that I just snapped:

    Last edited by pdiehm; 10-03-2012, 11:35 AM.
  • ProbieByKO
    Rookie
    • Nov 2011
    • 231

    #2
    Re: Explain this box-score.

    Poor programming?
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    • crpav
      Rookie
      • May 2012
      • 86

      #3
      Re: Explain this box-score.

      Originally posted by ProbieByKO
      Poor programming?
      That is the answer that sums up Madden and all of it's problems and bugs.

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      • cbc72
        Rookie
        • Jun 2003
        • 344

        #4
        Re: Explain this box-score.

        Was your turnover a fumble? I have seen a returned fumble count as negative rushing yards for the offensive team.

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        • pdiehm
          MVP
          • Aug 2008
          • 1402

          #5
          Re: Explain this box-score.

          Originally posted by cbc72
          Was your turnover a fumble? I have seen a returned fumble count as negative rushing yards for the offensive team.
          No, I had 2 turnovers. Both int's by Flacco.

          I just am still in shock that something like this could occur. I'm in more shock with this than I am of when my QB got called for holding on a pass play.

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          • MooseBoyJ
            I am Batmoose
            • Jul 2012
            • 0

            #6
            Re: Explain this box-score.

            How many sacks did you take? That counts as negative yards as well
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            • pdiehm
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 1402

              #7
              Re: Explain this box-score.

              Originally posted by Mooseboyj
              How many sacks did you take? That counts as negative yards as well
              Sacks count against rushing yards in college. to my knowledge sacks count against passing yards in the NFL.

              I took 3 sacks, but not 120 yards worth.

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              • Nick Saban
                Rookie
                • Jan 2011
                • 21

                #8
                Re: Explain this box-score.

                Originally posted by Signaltheescape
                Sacks are always rush yards. Seriously take 5 seconds and look up the rules instead of spreading ignorance.

                looks like you should take your own advice. sacks in college go against rushing yards, not in the pros. check your QBs rushing yards after a sack, you'll be surprised

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                • phillysouljah
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 346

                  #9
                  Re: Explain this box-score.

                  Originally posted by Signaltheescape
                  Sacks are always rush yards. Seriously take 5 seconds and look up the rules instead of spreading ignorance.
                  Excuse me? Sacks count against passing yards. Not individual passing yards but team passing yards.

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                  • pdiehm
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1402

                    #10
                    Re: Explain this box-score.

                    Originally posted by Signaltheescape
                    Sacks are always rush yards. Seriously take 5 seconds and look up the rules instead of spreading ignorance.
                    Sacks are rushing yards in college.

                    In the NFL it counts against the passing yards. One of the very big differences between the 2 levels.

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                    • Nick Saban
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 21

                      #11
                      Re: Explain this box-score.

                      dude just got lit up!

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                      • crosstheriver
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 133

                        #12
                        Re: Explain this box-score.

                        Originally posted by pdiehm
                        No, I had 2 turnovers. Both int's by Flacco.

                        I just am still in shock that something like this could occur. I'm in more shock with this than I am of when my QB got called for holding on a pass play.

                        Damn replacement refs.

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                        • Altimate
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 125

                          #13
                          Re: Explain this box-score.

                          Sacks count against rushing yards not passing yards. The only way to get negative passing yards is throwing behind the LOS.

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                          • pdiehm
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1402

                            #14
                            Re: Explain this box-score.

                            Originally posted by Altimate
                            Sacks count against rushing yards not passing yards. The only way to get negative passing yards is throwing behind the LOS.
                            You are wrong.

                            Sacks count against the team passing yards. Play a game. Throw for 300 yards, and take 28 yards in sacks. The number will be 272.

                            Sacks count against rushing in college. in the NFL sacks count against the team passing yards.

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                            • KBLover
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 12172

                              #15
                              Re: Explain this box-score.

                              Originally posted by pdiehm
                              Now by math: 297+71 does NOT = 255 (I believe it's 368).

                              Also, how can I run for 197 yards with 2 players, but have only 71 in the box score? The other runner only ran for -2.

                              Now I'm wondering how many other box-scores have been completely screwed up by the game?

                              For those who think I'm making it up. Here's a video that I just snapped:
                              For the rushing yards, I wonder if it's somehow subtracting everything from the first guy on the list. In this case, Rice - Allen - Flacco = 72. So I'm missing a yard, but it's really, really close.

                              Other thing I noticed was your total yards are off by 113. The difference between the amount the total yards are off and the total offense is off is 40, which is one more than the total penalty yards (39) by the Ravens.

                              Just spitting in the wind and probably just coincedence the numbers lined up that closely, but I couldn't help but notice.

                              Of course, like someone said earlier - "Bad Programming" nice catch all reason, and obviously no one decided to get out excel or a calculator to do a quick run through to make sure the stats are reporting correctly on the box score.
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