RECRUITS WITH RATINGS THAT MAKE NO SENSE

[football200414]

I'm anyone that has played the dynasty mode long enough has came across that has ratings that don't really make any sense. For example, I'm recruiting this ATH now that has the following ratings:

Overall - 73 (+3)
Speed - 95
Acceleration - 84
Catching - 56
Catch in Traffic - 86
Route Running - 94
Release - 82
Break Tackle - 71
Carrying - 78
Break Tackle - 71

Now if I sign him I'll probably see what he grades out better as WR or HB. For HB he has good carrying, break tackle, and speed but his moves for a HB are terrible (mostly 50's). He would be an unbelievable WR with every attribute except his catching. That's what really makes zero sense to me, he has awful hands unless someones about to rock his world??? He miraculously has Cris Carter hands if he's getting blind-sided??? Doesn't make sense that he compete for jump balls and catch through contact but can't catch in open field. Am I the only one who has seen recruits like this?

[The Program]

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I think the main part your missing there is that he is an athlete.... Meaning, he has good skills and build. But lacks the total package for a single position. Make him a WR, Catch Rating moves up the fastest. While Route Running, Spectacular Catch and Release move up very little. Most athletes recruited to D-1 schools have pure talent that just needs to rounded.

[football200414]

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I think the main part your missing there is that he is an athlete.... Meaning, he has good skills and build. But lacks the total package for a single position. Make him a WR, Catch Rating moves up the fastest. While Route Running, Spectacular Catch and Release move up very little. Most athletes recruited to D-1 schools have pure talent that just needs to rounded.

I get that and that's what I'm doing, but you're missing the point. The point is no one catches the ball better in traffic than they do in open field. He's an All-American WR with regards to catching the ball in traffic but has the hands of an OL in open field - that makes no sense. My point is the logic used when creating some of the recruits is ridiculous.

[kcarr]

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Well I dont know exactly how ea's formulas work on the field and have never really tried a player like that I cant be sure but looking that I feel cit should basically be a modifier for the xatch rating so then what you should have is a guy with bad hands who is not all that effected by getting hit or in otherwords wide open he may catch 5 of 10 passes but on those same 10 if he is hit he may only catch 4 whereas with high catch and low cit it shoyld be so open he may catch 8 out of 10 but getting hit maybe then drop to 4, dropping half those because of contact.

I dont know how it does work but that is how I think it should

[PocketScout]

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I get that and that's what I'm doing, but you're missing the point. The point is no one catches the ball better in traffic than they do in open field. He's an All-American WR with regards to catching the ball in traffic but has the hands of an OL in open field - that makes no sense. My point is the logic used when creating some of the recruits is ridiculous.

Not ridiculous just random. They use floors and ceilings for every attribute for each archetype player they create. You just wound up getting a recruit that was damn near the floor in CAT and the ceiling in CIT.

This used to be a huge issue a couple years ago (NCAA 2011 if memory serves me right) where attributes were extremely sporadic. Last year they reined them in and put proper floors and ceilings to the attribute generation code. To check the prevalence of the issue I looked at a sim roster file I have that has the league rosters in 2017. At this point all players are computer generated. I found two players who had CAT over 78 and CIT under 60.

This isn't a glitch or bad coding (statistically), you just found an odd ball who loves contact and crossing pattern but will probably never catch a fly pattern.

[TN - BRAVES FAN]

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Make him a tight end!

[football200414]

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Make him a tight end!

Why would I want to do that when he can't block to save his life and is weak as a kitten. Only cheesers move WR to TE because of speed. He's going to be a WR. Furthermore, I never questioned where to put him. I questioned the logic the game uses to assign ratings. Thanks to you other guys for your answers. The one who suggested they may used as modifiers made perfect sense & I'd put money on it that he's right. Kind of like the spin, juke, etc only being modifiers for running backs with reference to tendency more than ability.

[TN - BRAVES FAN]

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Why would I want to do that when he can't block to save his life and is weak as a kitten. Only cheesers move WR to TE because of speed. He's going to be a WR. Furthermore, I never questioned where to put him. I questioned the logic the game uses to assign ratings. Thanks to you other guys for your answers. The one who suggested they may used as modifiers made perfect sense & I'd put money on it that he's right. Kind of like the spin, juke, etc only being modifiers for running backs with reference to tendency more than ability.

You didn't give us his run block rating though.

[dominique314]

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You didn't give us his run block rating though.

you cant see those rating though (blocking) lol

[Manny_B214]

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he is a WR who can't catch so make him KR PR till he learns how to catch...

[football200414]

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he is a WR who can't catch so make him KR PR till he learns how to catch...

I have much better KR/PR guys, plus his return rating was in the 70's. I appreciate all the input about what to do with him but, again, that isn't what this thread was about. My OP had to do with the fact that every now and then you will come across a recruit that has some ratings that make no sense, like the difference between his catch in traffic and regular catch rating. Someone posted earlier that catch in traffic is a modifier rating for their catch rating, which makes sense now. If anyone knows for sure that's the case or knows for sure that it's different, your input would be greatly appreciated.

[RonNewman75]

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I've played IRL with many guys that couldn't catch a ball if they were wide open but if they were double teamed or had to pull out an amazing one handed diving backwards and keep a foot on the ground would catch it every time.

[bigman334]

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can you list all the ratings? maybe he has some DB skills. and depending on which moves are in the 50's he could still be a RB

[underdog13]

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He probably body catches and does not use his hands much to catch.

[football200414]

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Wow! Obviously some don't take the time to read or just choose to be completely off topic. No other skills other than receving, carrying, break tackle, speed, and acceleration. Everything else is in the 50's or below. No defensive skills whatsoever. That's why I only listed the skills that would factor into my decision to put him at WR, although I will entertain the idea using him at a HB but he'll probably never see the field.

Please only respond to this if you're actually going to provide some input to the central question about the rating system used to create recruits.