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  • football200414
    Banned
    • Aug 2010
    • 235

    #1

    Position Changes Destroy Ratings

    Apologies if this has been addressed before, but I'm finally fed up with this. I understand the drastic change in awareness if you switch positions drastically, like moving a DB to WR that has never played the position before. However, movements like LT to RT, T to G, DE to DT, or ROLB to MLB are not drastic changes. In fact, they're changes that happen on almost any team about every season. A drop of 5-10 points is sufficient instead of completely decimating their awareness rating. If EA is going to make that much of a change, they should at least allow it to increase rapidly as well when the player has been at the new position for a while. Something that's even crazier is the ATH recruits. If you put them at a position that is not their #1 position, you'll notice a hard hit to awareness. I thought the point of them being an athlete is that they could fit pretty well at 2 or more positions and were kind of a jack of all traits???

    Another thing I've noticed is the drop in ratings like strength when you move D-linemen. A guy doesn't automatically get weaker because he moves from DE to DT. Some serious attention needs to be directed toward this issue. It's really a deal-breaker for me since I like recruiting speed on defense, moving a lot of SS to LB, LB to DE, and DE to DT.
  • VonRye
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    • Jun 2008
    • 311

    #2
    Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

    You can easily change the AWR rating back by editing your players. I realize your point is that EA doesn't need to penalize players as much as they do, but you do have a way to rectify the situation yourself.

    *makes mental note to write down all AWR ratings for my players before changing positions.

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    • football200414
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      • Aug 2010
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      #3
      Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

      Originally posted by VonRye
      You can easily change the AWR rating back by editing your players. I realize your point is that EA doesn't need to penalize players as much as they do, but you do have a way to rectify the situation yourself.

      *makes mental note to write down all AWR ratings for my players before changing positions.

      That's not exactly an option for all members in an online dynasty

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      • Haze88
        Pro
        • Oct 2010
        • 667

        #4
        Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

        The hit shouldn't be in-game to begin with. In HIGH SCHOOL we were required to learn all complementary positions to your own (DB's, LB's, O&D Lineman, WR/TE), and I'm sure college coaches do the same. If we had an off-season like the old PS2 with a spring game, we could simulate working a player into a new position to reduce any hit to awareness that players are given.
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        • NEOPARADIGM
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          • Jul 2009
          • 2788

          #5
          Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

          Bu-bu-but I thought AWR didn't do anything except effect AI QB decision-making? That's what OS told me last time this issue came up.

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          • cparrish
            MVP
            • Apr 2010
            • 1539

            #6
            Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

            Originally posted by NEOPARADIGM
            Bu-bu-but I thought AWR didn't do anything except effect AI QB decision-making? That's what OS told me last time this issue came up.
            AWR is the most important rating when it comes to CPU controlled players regardless of what you have heard before.
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            • soonermagic88
              Rookie
              • Jul 2011
              • 491

              #7
              Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

              I havent done this yet, but i was thinking about making ratings adjustments post switching positions.
              Obviously awareness will take a bit of a hit if a move a corner to Safety or LB to DE, but not drop to 45 from 80. But what would be a fair adjustment?
              Lets say i move an 82 rated corner with 75 awareness to safety. Would adjusting his awareness to 70 be fair? I would think at positions that similar a 5 point hit would be fair.

              Now as far as moving DE to DT and their strength dropping, thats just dumb. You dont get weaker. If anything you might put on some size in the off season and get a little stronger, so i would make sure and edit strength up to what it was pre position switch.

              Thoughts? Opinions?

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              • B4lt1m0re Fan
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                • Oct 2012
                • 21

                #8
                Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                I've noticed the same thing. I recruited a 6'7'' linebacker with the intention of converting him to a tight end. He went from a 72 overall linebacker with about 70 awareness to a 40 overall tight end with 0 awareness. It certainly is a bigger transition than from end to tackle, but to have 0 awareness is ridiculous.
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                • ncaa13
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                  • Jul 2012
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                  #9
                  Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                  Originally posted by cparrish
                  AWR is the most important rating when it comes to CPU controlled players regardless of what you have heard before.
                  Once again you have no clue how the actual game works. please refrain from factless insite. Direct yourself to pocketscouts ratings breakdown.
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                  • ncaa13
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                    • Jul 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                    Originally posted by B4lt1m0re Fan
                    I've noticed the same thing. I recruited a 6'7'' linebacker with the intention of converting him to a tight end. He went from a 72 overall linebacker with about 70 awareness to a 40 overall tight end with 0 awareness. It certainly is a bigger transition than from end to tackle, but to have 0 awareness is ridiculous.
                    obviously if you recruited a LB as you said he wouldn't have any TE attributes like catching or route running and blocking therefore your conversion would be absolutely pointless because thats not his position unless you recruited an ATH with both attributes.
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                    • cparrish
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                      • Apr 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                      Originally posted by ncaa13
                      Once again you have no clue how the actual game works. please refrain from factless insite. Direct yourself to pocketscouts ratings breakdown.
                      Why do you insist on negative remarks every time you post? I have built rosters for three years in a row as well as been a part of the FCS Project and can tell you from my experience, AWR has a huge impact on the game. You obviously disagree with me, that is fine, as that is why opinions are opinions, but seriously stop with the negative remarks. It does absolutely nothing positive for Operation Sports.
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                      • Buckeyed
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                        • Feb 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                        The issue is the Overall rating in general. Who isn't going to start the 91 overall QB over the 81? Since Throw Accuracy and Power really don't mean anything some of us do because the 81 guy is a good runner. Sliders and a lot of roster updates help fix some of the ratings problems.

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                        • cparrish
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #13
                          Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                          Originally posted by Buckeyed
                          IIIIIwiseIIIII rosters are almost 100% spot on. This will be the second year in a row for their use in my OD.
                          Awww, no love for the other ratings guy of BuffEye rosters haha
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                          • Buckeyed
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                            • Feb 2012
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                            #14
                            Re: Position Changes Destroy Ratings

                            Originally posted by cparrish
                            Awww, no love for the other ratings guy of BuffEye rosters haha
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                            • Soonerfan14
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                              • Jul 2012
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by cparrish
                              Why do you insist on negative remarks every time you post? I have built rosters for three years in a row as well as been a part of the FCS Project and can tell you from my experience, AWR has a huge impact on the game. You obviously disagree with me, that is fine, as that is why opinions are opinions, but seriously stop with the negative remarks. It does absolutely nothing positive for Operation Sports.
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