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  • saints551
    Rookie
    • Apr 2007
    • 83

    #1

    The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

    So I'm doing an online CCM as a quarterback for the Raiders. I try to play sim style and only call the plays off gameflow as if the coach was sending them in. I'm on All Pro difficulty with 8 min quarters. The problem is my runningbacks never seem to be able to do anything, I know DMC may not be the best but he averages a lot more than 2.2 YPC. Has anyone found an effective set of sliders or other way to fix this? Also I apologize if this is in the wrong section.

    Thanks for the help,
    Saints551
  • nwfdwill
    Pro
    • Jul 2010
    • 630

    #2
    Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

    Unfortunately, the run game for 13 just sucks in general. Blocking schemes are horrific at best. Good luck with it.

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    • ATLBrayden
      All-Pro
      • Oct 2012
      • 747

      #3
      Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

      I use the run game on and off with the Falcons, with a mix between the "HB Draw" and "HB Toss Crack" with a few other plays seems to work pretty well.
      I use DetroitStyle's sliders, but those are for All-Madden.
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      • saints551
        Rookie
        • Apr 2007
        • 83

        #4
        Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

        I can run after I've thrown it 8 times in a row but really anything else is a toss up

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        • nwfdwill
          Pro
          • Jul 2010
          • 630

          #5
          Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

          I, too, use the draw a good bit. Both plays work well for me. I have mixed success with a counter, too. It's always a good idea to look at the defense and run to their weakness.

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          • MaddenSaints
            Banned
            • Jul 2012
            • 779

            #6
            Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

            Using the default All Madden Sliders. The CPU does nothing but run. Played the Rams and they rushed the ball 35 times with Jackson and he had 400 yards. Stupid.

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            • saints551
              Rookie
              • Apr 2007
              • 83

              #7
              Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

              the problem with the outside runs is that even if you run with numbers, the stalk blocking by the recievers is so bad that half the time they just run by their guy

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              • wisco pack fan
                Rookie
                • Sep 2012
                • 13

                #8
                Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                offline i use the packers playbook forgot the package but its pretty good to run out of . I move around one of the full backs to were the ball is going .

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                • RodgersComeHome
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 24

                  #9
                  Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                  you're right, DMC doesn't average 2.2 YPC, he averages 3.2! in all seriousness though running sucks in madden. if it helps, my friend (who always plays as the raiders) lights me up with DMC on runs to the outside. not like an hb crack/toss, but like hb misdirections or just hb power 0 and he goes off to the outside. every time though he makes cuts right before the LB's come, so i guess the trick is just to improve your timing.
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                  • Adamsin
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                    • Sep 2012
                    • 29

                    #10
                    Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                    I'm in the 5th year of my Colts offline CCM so I have had a pretty solid o-line now (all 90+ Run block). I'm having good success running to the right using RB stretch plays and power-o are particularly effective. I always adjust the o-line to the right in these situations.

                    HB draws I can always scamper for at least 5 yards usually more. I occassionally throw in a HB iso with adjusting the O-line to be aggressive with some success. If you have the fullback as your lead blocker follow him diligently. Also look for upfield blocks by your TE which can help you break a huge gain.

                    I play a different playbook every game so last night I found an awesome HB draw from a 4 WR set in the NO playbook where the QB does an auto throw fake that worked amazingly well.

                    You still have to time your cuts, see the hole and hit it for sure but it is still very doable. Some teams can still shut me down but if I'm patient enough I'll find there weakness, every team has one...
                    Last edited by Adamsin; 10-29-2012, 10:00 PM. Reason: additional info

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                    • saints551
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 83

                      #11
                      Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                      Thanks for all the help guys! but I think a few of you misunderstood, I'm doing a career as a QB, meaning I have no control over timing or when he makes his cuts. Do you think it would help to slide protect to the side im going to before every run play?

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                      • Sotendo
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 90

                        #12
                        Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                        Originally posted by saints551
                        Thanks for all the help guys! but I think a few of you misunderstood, I'm doing a career as a QB, meaning I have no control over timing or when he makes his cuts. Do you think it would help to slide protect to the side im going to before every run play?
                        I don't know if slide protect really does anything at all, but you can try to run counters with like two blockers and stuff.

                        The problem is that A.I. on all levels is worse, especially when the CPU tries to find a running hole, and the blockers always follow the predetermined guy instead of blocking the guy who's right there to tackle.

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                        • prototype561
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 269

                          #13
                          Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                          I assume since you are playing a player CCM as QB u have no control of your rbs, right(never did player CCM)? If so, then there is really nothing u can do other than try to get better run blocking o linemen.

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                          • Kwazi813
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 67

                            #14
                            Re: The Run Game Sucks!!! please help

                            I usually use GB so take that into consideration but these things helped me improve in offline at least:

                            See the hole. DO NOT sprint until you are ready to burst through the gap, otherwise you'll probably just run into your own blockers.

                            Patience. Running into my own blockers was my biggest problem. Be patient and let the blocks develop, this can open up some huge cutback lanes.

                            Run out of shotgun or other pass formations. Anytime you can get less than 8 in the box is a great time to run the ball.

                            Unbalanced lines. Bad blocking TE? Sub in an extra tackle. This is when you're lining up in an obvious run formation.

                            Audible to the weak side. Try and choose plays that can still work if you run it to the otherside without everyone motioning.

                            Hope some of that helped.

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