Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

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  • SPRINGS03
    MVP
    • Aug 2012
    • 1202

    #1

    Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

    Year after year it's the same thing with nba 2k games. It's becoming extremely clear that 2k has NO idea of how to make a game challenge you in a FAIR way, or they just don't want to/don't care.

    Before anyone comes in saying the cliche "you just suck learn to play, i love 2k and it doesn't cheat blah blah, don't complain" nonsense. Keep in mind, i'm getting extremely pissed even though i'm winning most of my games. And i do mess with sliders. I play on superstar.

    I just find the things this game does to make fake difficulty disgusting. It would be like going through a boxing match that you won, but your opponent gets away with low blowing you through the whole fight, that's how the computer plays. Dirty and cheap.

    Certain things i'm talking about that are blatant cheating:

    Rebounding animations favor computer: Often times i'll be in a better position to grab a board but due to my guy going into some idiotic terribly designed awkward rebound animation the computer gets the ball instead. For example, i had blake griffin boxed out with Dwight howard and when i hit the jump button howard jumps in slow motion like an idiot with both hands rigid, blake jumps and the ball gets sucked into his hand. Blake freaking outrebounded dwight howard with one hand while being boxed out! No, just no.

    Lose balls: All of your players act like idiots with loose balls. The balls loose and my guys run in slow motion or will be right by the ball and won't freaking grab it! I can't control everyone at once, this is ridiculous.

    Steals: This is a HUGE one. The computer gets some of the most garbage cheap steals i've ever seen. I've had the ball with howard in the paint, i try to go up. Blake griffin like strips him as he goes up(it's a canned animation that i've seen hinder the user more). What's messed up is on the replay he didn't even touch the ball, he just kind of bumped howard as he went up and howard drops the ball and goes up with nothing in his hands like an idiot.

    Other times, i'll try to dribble a little with larger player, let's say chris bosh. For some reason the game thinks bosh can't dribble at all(despite him being quick with the ball for a big, and having some footwork). I try to dribble just a bit and go bassline, the defender bumps me, bosh drops the ball and i can't move him to go get it. Or, the defender will run into me and i get this other canned animation where my player just forgets how to do anything as the defender reaches across him and he drops the ball. While on the other hand, i've literally had the computer pull an ankle breaker with a big and make my guy fall down as they drive all the way from the 3 point line to the basket. I've noticed when i bump the computer or try to steal the ball from them when they're controlling a big, they never get this stupid animations where they drop the ball. That's blatant cheating.

    Other nonsense: From dwight howard refusing to go anywhere near the paint and lingering around the 3 point line(telling him to post up isn't helpful because he doesn't really try to get deep in the post at all), to dwight howard going up in slow motion when i hit the block button, or jumping like 2 seconds after i hit the button, or barely jumping at all like he doesn't want to block the ball. Or how about the computer almost ALWAYS being able to successfully pass out of a shot with anybody. It's very cheap.

    I feel like things like this hold the game back and cheapen it,they need to be addressed but 2k seems like they don't want to acknowledge them.

    Do you guys feel like the game cheats? By the way, i do have evidence of some of this stuff, i've started saving replays and i might post them on youtube.
  • Optik
    MVP
    • Aug 2012
    • 1025

    #2
    Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...icients-5.html

    That will solve your problems.
    Originally posted by Dogslax41
    Most people that are asking for a simulation game don’t really want a simulation game because its too hard.

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    • SPRINGS03
      MVP
      • Aug 2012
      • 1202

      #3
      Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

      Originally posted by Optik
      Nah, as i've already stated above. I know how to use sliders and adjust tendencies. I also know how to edit players. It's not that simple.

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      • ekferio
        Rookie
        • Mar 2007
        • 269

        #4
        Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

        I hate the drop ball animation, it's so stupid. You bump into someone and drops the ball. And CPU's reaction time is like a millisecond. They can double team you inside the paint then immediately recover and run up to you at the 3 point line. The way they try to beat you is like so cheap. I can't even play this game with default slider.

        Oh, if they can't pass out of a shot that's being blocked, then it's an automatic foul. Pshh
        Last edited by ekferio; 11-02-2012, 01:36 AM.

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        • XxJustAguessxX
          Banned
          • Sep 2012
          • 2000

          #5
          Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

          OP, I feel your pain and encourage not to lose faith and keep telling it like it is. People in here right it off and one not knowing how to play but that's BS in my opinion. I understand wholeheartedly what your going through. I use tomba's sliders, best in the biz. They are pretty good but the offensive rebounding by the cpu totally kills it for me. I can take them making alot of shots, it's the NBA, they are supreme athletes but the offensive rebounding is crazy. My man will be in perfect position and not get the rebound, they get rebounds on 3 guys. My teammates don't act properly at all. The loose ball issue is another thing. Why is that my man will see the ball and not do anything. He'll just look at it, I don't understand that at all. It's like they are brain dead.

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          • lostsoul
            Rookie
            • Sep 2012
            • 202

            #6
            Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

            yelling it cause nobody else is telling it!

            2k13 is just a gimmick to get you to buy if you already own 12. there's no gameplay improvements at all. what's the point of adding things like sig skills and new modes if the gameplay isn't there? i've talked about the scripting in multiple threads that cover the cpu fast break, offensive rebounding, lagging teammates - they're all tied together; but people think i'm crazy and call me a conspiracy theorist and probably think i'm out to get 2k.

            but hey, it's a game and no one is forcing us to play it but it does piss you off thinking of what 2k COULD bring to the table.

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            • keshunleon
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 2111

              #7
              Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

              I feel your pain!

              Everything you stated is what I put for 2K to fix in their patch. When the CPU is making a run all of these animations happen.

              Another canned animation (I don't like) is PG dribbles past defender and a rotating defender helps (PF/C) and rips the ball from him.

              A new animation I have been seeing a lot is the CPU will be around the 3pt line and do a crossover dribble. It freezes the defender and the CPU gets a extremely speed burst animation, takes one dribble then travels (3 steps) for an uncontested layup.
              True bout my business, Mane!

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              • coldkevin
                Rookie
                • Nov 2007
                • 369

                #8
                Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                Do you remember Skyrim when it came out? Potentially GOTY but full of bugs, people were furious, how many patches have come out to fix it?

                This is 2k13, it could be a great game but it's full of bugs, why shoud we be afraid to say so if it's the truth?
                Last edited by coldkevin; 11-02-2012, 12:27 PM.

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                • SPRINGS03
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1202

                  #9
                  Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                  Yeah the loose balls have always been a problem, it's at the point where i think most loose balls are predetermined to go to the computer no matter what. I've seen several instances where the ball is tipped loose and my guy will NOT pick it up despite being right by it. Or the computer will tip a pass and dive to save it from going out of bounds, and pass it perfectly to their teammate. It seems like the balls the computer saves are predetermined/canned to go to their teammates because no matter what my teammates don't ever seem to get them.

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                  • Sasquash
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 236

                    #10
                    Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                    [QUOTE=lostsoul;2044389830]yelling it cause nobody else is telling it!

                    there's no gameplay improvements at all.


                    Obviously your just mad with the game because there's no way you don't notice gameplay improvements and compared to 12 this game is much better gameplay wise
                    T.R.U. 2 MY REALIGION

                    ''I'm Just laughin To the Bank All you do is ''Giggle''

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                    • Sasquash
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 236

                      #11
                      Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                      Getting cheated by the AI is just something that we're going to have to get used to, because not many games can balance the AI playing fair without the AI being too easy to beat.. It's not really that bad it's BS but competitive
                      T.R.U. 2 MY REALIGION

                      ''I'm Just laughin To the Bank All you do is ''Giggle''

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                      • SPRINGS03
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1202

                        #12
                        Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                        Originally posted by Sasquash
                        Getting cheated by the AI is just something that we're going to have to get used to, because not many games can balance the AI playing fair without the AI being too easy to beat.. It's not really that bad it's BS but competitive
                        No, i don't like that logic. Why should we just accept that, that's a terrible idea. It's a flaw, it needs to be fixed. Sure a lot of games give the AI some advantage, but this is blatant and ridiculous cheating. It's terribly programmed and inexcusable IMO.

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                        • JasonWilliams55
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2045

                          #13
                          Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                          Thread linked above has more details than this:

                          Pro is the only level that I have seen were true ratings are there for both teams. (Although another poster stated that Pro has a few ratings that are still boosted)

                          All Star raises the majority of ratings by +5, Superstar +7, HoF +10 to 12. Combine that with the USER timing windows getting smaller, you end up getting BS gameplay from the CPU with morphs, sliding, guys who shouldn't be making fadeaway 3's, etc. Adjust down the CPU to compensate for the boosts and you'll see much better gameplay.
                          "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                          • lostsoul
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 202

                            #14
                            Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                            [quote=Sasquash;2044396476]
                            Originally posted by lostsoul
                            yelling it cause nobody else is telling it!

                            there's no gameplay improvements at all.


                            Obviously your just mad with the game because there's no way you don't notice gameplay improvements and compared to 12 this game is much better gameplay wise
                            no broski, you're the blind one. the supposed gameplay improvments are merely half a** workarounds by 2k. believe me, they didn't dedicate much time and effort into what you're seeing. the game plays like 2k12 with 'official' slider adjustments.
                            Last edited by lostsoul; 11-04-2012, 02:03 AM.

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                            • jmarcguy
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1322

                              #15
                              Re: Getting tired of the cheating BS by the AI in NBA 2k13

                              Would it be better to play on pro & raise some CPU sliders to increase the challenge?

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