Tarver or Bomani?
 

I am running a 3-4 for Patriots with Mack Jackson in the middle and Knox at LOLB. In this 2010 Draft, I expect to get Dexter Foley for another MLB pairing him with Jackson. Both Tarver and Bomani are are rated very high. Which one do you think I should get? I like to occasionally blitz my MLBs, aside from occasional blitzing all 4.

Are there some specific differences between Tarver and Bomani?

Re: Tarver or Bomani?
 

Ebongreen's 2010 draft path review says Bomani is the better 3-4 OLB. That's good enough for me.

I took Bomani and he's having a decent season. not going to win rookie of the year, but decent nonetheless.

Btw, I know it's late to get him now, but maybe you can trade for him, Alonzi Simms (2009 draft) is the best 3-4 MLB I've ever had, hands down. He outplayed Mack Jackson to win defensive rookie of the year last year, despite Mack being ahead of him on the depth chart.

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Thanks for your input. I didn't see Ebongreen's 2010 draft review. The question in my mind would be is he talking 4-3, 3-4, or it doesn't matter? I did read patsfan4life's review of the 2010 draft review including his top players for each position, and he listed Tarver above Bomani. Perhaps it comes down to who works better in your career?

I like Mack Jackson. Last year he was very good all around including interceptions. patsfan4life doesn't have Simms in the top 5 players at MLB position, but of course, what happens in your career is more important than what anyone says. I had Juran Riley and he was nothing like the praise I've often seen; Kenny Phillips has been better for me at CB than Juran Riley. Even Mike Jenkins has been better for me than Riley.

I am so torn between Bomani and Tarver that I am considering doing the draft over. I drafted Tarver and saved at training camp. I could go back to my other save before the draft started and draft Bomani.

Btw, I will look for it but if you don't mind posting here, I would appreciate the link to Ebongreen's 2010 draft review.

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I found Ebongreen's 2010 draft review and I don't see where he says Bomani is better than Tarver:

"Outside Backers: Demeco Boldin is your only real candidate at LOLB, but he comes with personality baggage and durability issues. At ROLB, Wendell Tarver and Domisa Bomani are both excellent pickups: Tarver has the speed and height to be a perfect 3-4 blitz-backer, while Bomani fits better as a brutally-strong 4-3 ROLB or even as an ILB in a 3-4. The remaining draftees are backups or marginal starters due to athletic deficiencies."

Re: Tarver or Bomani?
 

Apparently I remembered it backwards, Tarver was the 3-4 blitzing OLB. ahh well, my mistake.

Trust me, Alonzi Simms is a defensive god in the patriots pressure 3-4 playbook. Fully 1/3 or more of my sacks/tackles-for-loss are him, and that's with Alain Dixon, Xavier Cox, Mack Jackson, and Jason Taylor among the other front 7 with him. Maybe they're making the holes for him, but if he is in position, he will make the play, which as I'm sure you know is a big problem in the game. I can't count number of times I've seen a LB or DE get into position for a qb sack or big tackle on the rb way behind the line and then just run along side the ball carrier doing nothing, or miss entirely. Not Simms. he's there AND he makes the play.

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I think Cox helps! :wink:

I would have loved to get Cox. No doubt about it, he is the man! And, you also have Dixon! Have you ever lost a game with those guys? Sounds like a dynamite team you have there. Who is your QB?

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I got dixon with my legit 2009 pick. i traded up to get mack jackson in round 1 as well that year.

i got cox because the saints were STUPID. i had a glut of good-but-old TEs I picked up in free agency at the end of the season, with the thoughts of keeping the best and dumping the rest coming out of training camp. the saints traded me their 1st round pick for 2 of them on draft day. I happily took it, grabbed cox, and managed to pick up LE selvin lankford at #7 with the pick I got from the redskins the previous year.

I haven't played in a few days, but if memory serves, my line is either Jason Taylor or Calais Campbell (I forget who I'm starting at the moment), Dixon, and Cox. LBs (where the real action always seems to be on my defense) is Bomani at ROLB, Mack Jackson and Simms in the middle, and I can't remember the name of the guy I've got at LOLB, but he's was a decent late-round sleeper pickup who has matured into a high-80s ovl player. he isn't a superstar, but he does his job.

got Ty Gordon (not sure if he's a randomly named player or not, hotshot CB from the 2010 class) and what's-his-name, the awesome SS from the 2008 draft class, moved to CB as my starters. I've got two good no-name safeties too. Both have a pot of 91 and are currently in the mid 80s.

if anything, my secondary is my weakness... and with all 4 starters at ovl 85 or above, that's not a particularlly horrible weakness. average game sees my opponent scoring between 14 and 21 points, although I did have a stinker or two where I got 40+ scored on me. often my own fault for going too blitz heavy... but there's nothing I love more than seeing simms or cox put the opposing QB on his butt.

Dane Morrow is Quarterbacking for me. Dane is one of my favorites, he's probably QB'd for me more often than anybody else in my past franchises. He's among the best pure pocket passers in the game.

my reciving corps is absolutely sick. Brandon Marshall and Jamelle Lucas (who is just about a marshall clone anyway) on the outside and as my deep threats, Jamarrion Bellows in the slot, and Roddy White shows up in my 4-WR sets. I've got Karron Cousins and Drew Goldman at TE, and LaRon James picks up more yards in the passing game than he does running (probably going to move him to backup or deal him out for trade bait once I get TE storm stewart next year and move him to HB. Stewart makes the best receiving HB in the game I believe.) Who ends up with the yardage varies per game, depending on who the opposing defense is trying to double cover (hint, it doesn't matter, they're ALL valid targets for big yardage), but It's not uncommon at all for me to have multiple games per season where I have two different players with greater than 150 yards. I had a game the other night where Jamelle Lucas and Jamarrion Bellows both had over 200 yards, which I'm pretty sure has never actaully happened in the real NFL.

Offensive line is pretty sick too. They're all set to pass-block specialist, and in that role I've got nobody with an ovl under 85 starting, and even the 85 (Sam Baker) will be on backup once I pick up boma-the-younger this coming draft. I do see the occasional sack from the right side, but with Selvin Lankford and Patrick Boma on the left, it's virtually a wall over there. they both need to be doubleteamed for me to see any pressure from that direction.

we squeaked into the last wildcard spot in the playoffs last year, but managed to ride it all the way to the SB (where we lost to the colts). This year we're currently 11-1 (damn buccaneers. it's like nobody told the developers they're nothing special), and I think if we win the revenge game against the buccs that I've currently got paused at 17-0 in the 2nd quarter, we lock up the NFC south. I can smell that lombardi trophy this year.

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I imagine you are heading for a salary cap issue with all those top players.

Let's say you had Marshall, Bellows, Lucas, and Larry Fitzgerald. How would you start those players? Who would be starting and who would be in the slot?

The SS you mentioned is I guess Kenny Phillips? I drafted him and following year changed him to CB. Phillips does well at any db position, or so it seems.

What team are you coaching?